Postwar Vintage vs Modern ?

[todeen]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

My argument would be that the definition has more to do with what was going on in the card hobby at the time than just what was happening only on the ball field.

I understand, but they are entangled. I started collecting in 1991, and of all the brands I was most aware that Upper Deck had nicer cards. If I was going to set a line of demarcation in the 1980s, I would choose pre-1989, with the arrival of Upper Deck. All the other companies followed suit not long after, and then due to nicer paper, they could incorporate refractors. Thicker and nicer cardstock was a game changer.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by todeen

I understand, but they are entangled. I started collecting in 1991, and of all the brands I was most aware that Upper Deck had nicer cards. If I was going to set a line of demarcation in the 1980s, I would choose pre-1989, with the arrival of Upper Deck. All the other companies followed suit not long after, and then due to nicer paper, they could incorporate refractors. Thicker and nicer cardstock was a game changer.

It's true, that's just another dividing line. But the junk era also started before premium cards. I remember too being impressed with Upper Deck as a 12 year-old in 1989. Those cards were like nothing we'd ever seen before.

Maybe it's simpler just to refer to some things more generically as "old cards." That's what we called 1950's cards in the 1980's. The term "vintage" didn't really even come into play to my knowledge until I was an adult in the hobby. I thought it was silly at first myself.

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

It's true, that's just another dividing line. But the junk era also started before premium cards. I remember too being impressed with Upper Deck as a 12 year-old in 1989. Those cards were like nothing we'd ever seen before.

Maybe it's simpler just to refer to some things more generically as "old cards." That's what we called 1950's cards in the 1980's. The term "vintage" didn't really even come into play to my knowledge until I was an adult in the hobby. I thought it was silly at first myself.

Back in 1972-73 when at the ripe age of 11, I got my first older cards ranging from 1951-1964 we'd refer to them as "old-time cards." I knew someone who had one 33 Goudey common and that was one of the most amazing items that I'd ever seen. To be young once again...

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

Back in 1972-73 when at the ripe age of 11, I got my first older cards ranging from 1951-1964 we'd refer to them as "old-time cards." I knew someone who had one 33 Goudey common and that was one of the most amazing items that I'd ever seen. To be young once again...

Yep. The first card I owned that I thought of as truly "old" was a '66 Topps Sandy Koufax. This was in 1987 or '88, so the card was barely 20 years old, LOL.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Yep. The first card I owned that I thought of as truly "old" was a '66 Topps Sandy Koufax. This was in 1987 or '88, so the card was barely 20 years old, LOL.

My first two "old" cards were 1961 Sandy Koufax and Duke Snider, purchased around 1995. I felt triumphant holding those cards in my hand. King of the Hill. My mom has always been a Dodgers fan. When I asked her for those I thought she would say no, but she said yes! I still remember the feeling of excitement as an 8/9 yr old.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by todeen

My first two "old" cards were 1961 Sandy Koufax and Duke Snider, purchased around 1995. I felt triumphant holding those cards in my hand. King of the Hill. My mom has always been a Dodgers fan. When I asked her for those I thought she would say no, but she said yes! I still remember the feeling of excitement as an 8/9 yr old.

It never gets old. That feeling is why many of us are here on N54 today, I think. Cheers!


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