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Old 12-21-2020, 03:49 PM
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There is nothing cheap about PSA. If you want inexpensive subs you have to have a minimum 20 cards under a certain dollar amount and within a certain year range. Even as an auction house I struggle to get cards to fall under there critieria to get the cheaper rates.

By the way their lowest regular price is $50.

Grading is no longer an inexpensive venture and I do not see it changing in the future.

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Old 12-21-2020, 10:09 PM
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That's what happens when everyone wants to become a dealer and sends in 100 (flavor of the month hot rookie) and turn around sell on ebay. These companies are flooded by these flippers and the reason most of them hate the longer turn around times. That flavor of the month hot rookie just got sent back to the minors or better....scheduled for Tommy John surgery! Flippers need their cards ASAP.

I try to explain to my 17 year old son...every table at most of the shows have STACKS and STACKS of Acuna "bat down" PSA 10 cards ( or insert every other top prospect from the last 3 years..

I've never sent anything in to be graded but when I do they can take as long as they please. I'm not concerned if mine go up or down in value, I just like my cards.
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Old 12-24-2020, 07:38 AM
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That's what happens when everyone wants to become a dealer and sends in 100 (flavor of the month hot rookie) and turn around sell on ebay. These companies are flooded by these flippers and the reason most of them hate the longer turn around times. That flavor of the month hot rookie just got sent back to the minors or better....scheduled for Tommy John surgery! Flippers need their cards ASAP.

I try to explain to my 17 year old son...every table at most of the shows have STACKS and STACKS of Acuna "bat down" PSA 10 cards ( or insert every other top prospect from the last 3 years..

I've never sent anything in to be graded but when I do they can take as long as they please. I'm not concerned if mine go up or down in value, I just like my cards.
Oh c'mon, the 3095830493094 Mikal Bridges rookies aren't going to grade themselves.
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Old 12-24-2020, 07:59 AM
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I would like to see all the low dollar value cards that are subbed for 6-12 months as a high end expensive cards. $35 per card is what I would like to see on any card with a declared value under $150.

I think this would allow the grading companies time to catch up and increase their turn around times. Worth a shot for 6-12 cards. To much junk being subbed.

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Old 12-24-2020, 10:10 AM
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nothing says your welcome more than raising prices and taking forever to get em back !!!
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Old 12-23-2020, 07:50 PM
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There is nothing cheap about PSA. If you want inexpensive subs you have to have a minimum 20 cards under a certain dollar amount and within a certain year range. Even as an auction house I struggle to get cards to fall under there critieria to get the cheaper rates.

By the way their lowest regular price is $50.

Grading is no longer an inexpensive venture and I do not see it changing in the future.

Lee
This post doesn't fit the narrative on here that SGC is greedy, and why don't things cost what they used to. It's almost a waste as it's way more fun to complain and thus same posters will make the same lament in a new thread within a few weeks.

Of course, no one at the same time wants to acknowledge the argument that these cards now bring 10 x as much when sold and thus as an integral part of that economy TPG's should also have their work valued similarly, they just want their cheap labor grading.

Oh, and anyone thinking CGC will provide a cheaper service - go look at their charging scale.
The hobby is growing exponentially, especially with modern now considered a serious investment, and the backbone of that growth is the relative stability that the third party grader provides to establish the transfer of material.
People on here should be celebrating the obvious re-energizing of the hobby as new collectors will fuel passion and interest going forward, not the wizened hobby specialists on here.

This place, this site, the collectors on here, hold a very important role in maintaining a bank of historical knowledge that ALL collector cards will be living off forever, but it's no more important than what is of interest to the modern collector and how they choose to collect.

The old man / get off my lawn reactionary response to the grading industry is ridiculous.

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Old 12-24-2020, 07:57 AM
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...People on here should be celebrating the obvious re-energizing of the hobby as new collectors will fuel passion and interest going forward, not the wizened hobby specialists on here.

This place, this site, the collectors on here, hold a very important role in maintaining a bank of historical knowledge that ALL collector cards will be living off forever, but it's no more important than what is of interest to the modern collector and how they choose to collect.

The old man / get off my lawn reactionary response to the grading industry is ridiculous.
You seem to take issue with long-time collectors enjoying the hobby in the manner which appeals to them.

Card collecting is a fairly large space these days. There's plenty of room for everyone. Relax and enjoy the portion of the hobby that resonates with you.

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Old 12-24-2020, 06:22 PM
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You seem to take issue with long-time collectors enjoying the hobby in the manner which appeals to them.

Card collecting is a fairly large space these days. There's plenty of room for everyone. Relax and enjoy the portion of the hobby that resonates with you.

Happy collecting.
Opposite, Eric.
It's the caterwauling over grading flaws and costs when the obvious choice is that you don't need to participate to enjoy the hobby that is my point.

What is the value over complaining and disparaging grading and graders?
To return the hobby to something it may have been many years ago?

Long time hobby collectors can rubber band, 9 holder sheet, loose in a shoebox, slab, put under glass, or any other that they choose.
I celebrate it all and don't rubbish their choice.
I'm 52, not exactly little chick, been in the game in the States 20 years and 35 overall.

Perhaps you miss the constant and vacuous threads/posts on here about the disaster that some paint grading. I should probably try and do better to do the same, it's just so damned hard and repetitive and often completely baseless.
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