Negro Leagues Recognized As Major

howard38 · #1 12-19-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by t206fix

Thank you. I remember that bullshit from the 80s. "A black man can't quarterback."

PE : we about to watch the super bowl, we got a black quarter back, so step back.

Not just the 80's. After Russell Wilson's famous super bowl INT my former boss started off a statement with, "This is not racist, but...". Of course, I knew the next words out of his mouth would, in fact, be racist & he didn't disappoint finishing with "a black quarterback can't win a super bowl". Wilson himself had won it the previous season, but whatever.

71buc · #2 12-21-2020, 08:46 AM

Nice article by Tom Boswell

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...negro-leagues/

Mark17 · #3 12-21-2020, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by howard38

Not just the 80's. After Russell Wilson's famous super bowl INT my former boss started off a statement with, "This is not racist, but...". Of course, I knew the next words out of his mouth would, in fact, be racist & he didn't disappoint finishing with "a black quarterback can't win a super bowl". Wilson himself had won it the previous season, but whatever.

Is that evidence of systemic racism, or is he just your common, garden variety idiot?

I hear people say ignorant things all the time, about all sorts of things. On the topic of Russ Wilson, he is undeniably very successful at his profession, he's paid quite well, he's wildly popular in Seattle, and he seems like a genuinely nice guy and very hard working. Personally, he's my favorite guy on that team.

That interception that lost the Super Bowl is 100% on the coach. Give the ball to The Beast, 3 times if you have to, and you win. But no, Sherman has to get cute and call a risky play.

howard38 · #4 12-22-2020, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

Is that evidence of systemic racism, or is he just your common, garden variety idiot?

I hear people say ignorant things all the time, about all sorts of things. On the topic of Russ Wilson, he is undeniably very successful at his profession, he's paid quite well, he's wildly popular in Seattle, and he seems like a genuinely nice guy and very hard working. Personally, he's my favorite guy on that team.

That interception that lost the Super Bowl is 100% on the coach. Give the ball to The Beast, 3 times if you have to, and you win. But no, Sherman has to get cute and call a risky play.

Neither, just evidence that some people still think that way.

Tabe · #5 12-21-2020, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by howard38

Not just the 80's. After Russell Wilson's famous super bowl INT my former boss started off a statement with, "This is not racist, but...". Of course, I knew the next words out of his mouth would, in fact, be racist & he didn't disappoint finishing with "a black quarterback can't win a super bowl". Wilson himself had won it the previous season, but whatever.

I'll defend that call til the day I die. Besides the fact Lynch hadn't succeeded in any of those situations all year...Russ hesitated on the throw, threw it late, threw it inaccurately, and Ricardo Lockette ran his route half-speed and at the wrong angle. If EITHER guy executes properly, it's a touchdown.

Exhibitman · #6 12-21-2020, 01:47 PM

I started out skeptical of this whole thing but after reading the arguments against it on N54 I have changed my tune. I view it as an act of contrition on the part of MLB towards the men who were not enshrined in Cooperstown. They deserve respect as Major League players, not back of the bus status as Negro League players.

As far as parity goes, we routinely ignore the statistics from the 19th century game, especially every season pitching stat, because it was a totally different game played under totally different conditions. Designating Artie Wilson as a .400 hitter doesn't diminish Ted Williams one iota.

Mark17 · #7 12-21-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tabe

I'll defend that call til the day I die. Besides the fact Lynch hadn't succeeded in any of those situations all year...Russ hesitated on the throw, threw it late, threw it inaccurately, and Ricardo Lockette ran his route half-speed and at the wrong angle. If EITHER guy executes properly, it's a touchdown.

It's first and goal at the 5 yard line. They give it to Lynch and he gains 4. Now it's second and goal from the one. I'm thinking, if Lynch and that O-line can get 4 yards on the first play down there, they can get one more with 3 more stabs at it.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 12-21-2020, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tabe

I'll defend that call til the day I die. Besides the fact Lynch hadn't succeeded in any of those situations all year...Russ hesitated on the throw, threw it late, threw it inaccurately, and Ricardo Lockette ran his route half-speed and at the wrong angle. If EITHER guy executes properly, it's a touchdown.

Come on, man. The best running back in football, ball on the one yard line, and you're defending a pass play? Your own analysis shows the problem -- too many things can go wrong.

todeen · #9 12-21-2020, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Come on, man. The best running back in football, ball on the one yard line, and you're defending a pass play? Your own analysis shows the problem -- too many things can go wrong.

Im a Seahawks fan. That was heartbreaking to watch. My son was 2 or 3, barely knew how to talk, but he knew the word touchdown. As the whole party crowd was crying, he was standing in the middle of us all jumping up and down celebrating shouting "Touchdown! Touchdown! Touchdown!"

I've come to grips with the play over the years by believing that the Patriots player just made a nice play on the ball.

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Exhibitman · #10 12-21-2020, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hankphenom: "I was born in 1946, and would recommend not talking about it like it was ancient history."

You're so old you qualify for the early round of the COVID vaccine...

Hankphenom · #11 12-21-2020, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Originally Posted by Hankphenom: "I was born in 1946, and would recommend not talking about it like it was ancient history."

You're so old you qualify for the early round of the COVID vaccine...

Missed it by a few months, actually, if you do the math.

Kenny Cole · #12 12-21-2020, 08:18 PM

I thought it was a terribly stupid call then, and I think it was a terribly stupid call now. If it had worked, it would have been simply unconventional. But it didn't work, so it remains terribly stupid IMO.

Tabe · #13 12-22-2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Come on, man. The best running back in football, ball on the one yard line, and you're defending a pass play? Your own analysis shows the problem -- too many things can go wrong.

I mean, other than the fact that they were 0-for-the-season in that situation and that he wasn't the best RB in football (DeMarco Murray)...

When guys don't execute, things can go wrong. Wilson could have not taken the snap properly, could have botched the snap, guys could have missed their blocks, blah blah blah. Again, if your supposedly all-world quarterback does his job, it's not even an issue.

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