T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[tedzan]

"Turkey Mike" was quite a character. He was the "Talk of the Town" in New York City. Not only for his BB prowess, but also his vaudeville
performances (with his wife) on Broadway. Mike would have been a "contender" for the BB Hall of Fame with his career BA = .333 and a
Slugging Avg. = .468 (higher than many stars in the Deadball Era), if he had just devoted more of his time to BB.
Any given time when the TCM channel is featuring Silent Movies, there is a good chance you'll see Donlin in the cast. He was featured in
53 movies. The most notable ones being "The General" and "Slide Kelly Slide".

Just a simple explanation why Mike Donlin is one of my favorite T206's. Especially, his batting pose in the white-bordered tobacco cards.
Here is a partial run which I will be working on for quite some time to complete.

My question to any of you is....is the yellow-brown "scrap" in my run a unique card ? I haven't seen another such Donlin; however, there
are quite a number of T206 yellow-brown scraps in circulation in the hobby. I appreciate your response.


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TED Z

[tedzan]

Well, no new responses here, so I'll post another one of my possible "one of a kind" T206's.....this printing anomaly of Carl Lundgren.

In 1984, Barry Sloate introduced me to the "world" of rare T206 front/back combos, by selling me this Lundgren with the EPDG back.
This was the beginning of an an obsession that continues with me till this day. I completed it's back run (only 3 cards needed). And, I
have included the color-error (missing blue ink) of Lundgren, since I I think this card may be a unique T206.
Perhaps another one may exist, so if you have one, please post it here.



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TED Z

T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists
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[stutor]

Always love seeing this thread. I’m not certain of this is 1/1, but it’s pretty cool IMO.

[MVSNYC]

Sonny, great Matty BB!

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by tedzan

"Turkey Mike" was quite a character. He was the "Talk of the Town" in New York City. Not only for his BB prowess, but also his vaudeville
performances (with his wife) on Broadway. Mike would have been a "contender" for the BB Hall of Fame with his career BA = .333 and a
Slugging Avg. = .468 (higher than many stars in the Deadball Era), if he had just devoted more of his time to BB.
Any given time when the TCM channel is featuring Silent Movies, there is a good chance you'll see Donlin in the cast. He was featured in
53 movies. The most notable ones being "The General" and "Slide Kelly Slide".

Just a simple explanation why Mike Donlin is one of my favorite T206's. Especially, his batting pose in the white-bordered tobacco cards.
Here is a partial run which I will be working on for quite some time to complete.

My question to any of you is....is the yellow-brown "scrap" in my run a unique card ? I haven't seen another such Donlin; however, there
are quite a number of T206 yellow-brown scraps in circulation in the hobby. I appreciate your response.


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TED Z

Hi Ted, I've been trying to follow the "Yellow/Brown" scrap cards for as long as I've been searching and studying the full color "No Prints". Since they are both in the same category, Group A and Group B, both missing their Overprint Scroll and covering the Factory 30 and replacing it with the Factory 42 Overprint. The only thing is I don't count the 6 Super Prints because they were printed with the Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 backs. All the other cards from Group A and B were never meant to exist with the Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 backs.

Your Mike Donlin With Bat is the only one I've seen. I try to save all images of these Yellow/Brown scraps as they come along and get listed.


GROUP "A" 29 Hand-Cut Yellow/Brown Color (Scrap - Not Issued) Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 back (This Front/Back combo was never issued in tobacco products).

I'm missing the following scans/images of the following Yellow/Brown Scraps. Any help with a scan or picture would be appreciated.

FRANK HOME RUN BAKER (I have a scan but I don't believe it to be a Yellow/Brown)
PATSY DOUGHERTY - ARM IN AIR
RED KLEINOW - BOSTON - CATCHING
NAP RUCKER - THROWING


GROUP "B" 28 Hand-Cut Full Color (Scrap - Not Issued) Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 back (This Front/Back combo was never issued in tobacco products).

This 28 card set I personally own and can share scans of any of the 28 cards when requested.


GROUP "C" or "Super Prints" 6 Hand-Cut Yellow/Brown Color (Scrap - Not Issued) Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 back (This Front/Back combo was issued in tobacco products, but only the full color non scrap version of the cards).

I'm missing the following scans/images of the following Yellow/Brown Scraps. Any help with a scan or picture would be appreciated.

HAL CHASE - BLACK CAP
TY COBB - PORTRAIT RED


Thank you in advance for the help that anyone can provide to my missing scans collection. I would really like to put together a complete Yellow/Brown Subset. It would go great with my 28 card "No Print" set. Because these sheets of cards were literally stacked side by side, waiting for their Factory Overprint to be added. The only difference was the "Group B" cards were ready for their overprint and then be cut into singles, but someone grabbed a few sheets before that happened and most likely brought them home for the kids to cut up and play with. The "Group A" Yellow/Brown scraps were likely taken straight from the trash can and brought home, maybe by the same person. We will never know. The 6 Super Print scraps are interesting but because that exact front/back combo was made and inserted into packs, they are missing that specialness I crave.

[Rhotchkiss]

Wow Sonny!! You have some serious Mattys. That is a great blank back

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Wow Sonny!! You have some serious Mattys. That is a great blank back

I agree with that!! Of all the Matty poses in the T206 set, the Dark Cap is my least favorite. But it's just something kinda magical when it has a Blank Back attached to it. It puts my 3 (Polar Bear, Sovereign 460, and Tolstoi) to shame.

[atx840]

I do not think there is a Dougherty, my theory it was swapped out with Ames....just a theory though

Here are the 34 I think make for the y/bs, I have scans of 33, missing Chase black cap.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by atx840

I do not think there is a Dougherty, my theory it was swapped out with Ames....just a theory though

Here are the 34 I think make for the y/bs, I have scans of 33, missing Chase black cap.

Hi ole buddy,

I cannot agree with you regarding Dougherty, simply because all 35 of these guys were printed with a trio of correlated backs....BROAD LEAF 460, red HINDU, and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42.
Just because he is missing in the collection of yellow-brown cards, does not mean he was not printed with this group of 35. You also have a missing Chase (dark cap), and we know he was printed.


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TED Z
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[atx840]

Hey Ted, good to see you posting.

I have never seen an Ames Red Hindu or BL460, would love to see scans.

My theory is that the group I listed was printed with Ames and then at one point printed with Dougherty in its place. Some backs were printed with both cards and some backs after the swap and do not include the Ames.

just a theory