Zeenut checklists

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Below is a list of the 1933-36 cards that were confirmed with coupons, and thus year of issue, in the late 1970's by Jim Horne in his published Zeenut listing.

To brianp-beme and all,

Your posting of the listing is quite useful. It helps establish the year of issue of many cards that do not have variations and further gives specific years for those that do.

I know Horne, et al, did a lot of work to identify the various poses and picture variations, but without actual pictures I don't think we can fully rely on the conclusions reached.

For example, the list says the Larry Woodall (Seals) with coupon that expires April 1st 1985 is the "large" pose. Comparing my Woodall that has an April 1st 1986 expiry date with one that expires on April 1st 1985 makes clear that the 1986 is the "large" pose and the 1985 is the "small" one.

Yes, they didn't have a Woodall coupon with a 1986 date, but like us they had access to most of the known card variations without coupons. Thus new varieties are few and far between. The question is which variety goes to which of the yearly sets Zeenut issued during this period.

Horne's list contains many couponed cards for which I do not have scans and perhaps these will get posted. I have only a few he didn't list. Maybe more will turn up, but again most of the known variations were know back then.

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Comparing coupon listing in Jim Horne's Zeenut Listing of confirmed coupons in the late 1970's with mine. If an “*” is in front of player's name, the card is on both lists and I have scan. If a “ ? “ is in front of player's name, have no scan but it's on Horne's list. If a player's name is underlined, I have scan, but its not in Horne's list. “Small” and “Large” pose indications are from Horne and need to be verified.

PLEASE POST SCANS OF THE FRONT SIDE OF ANY COUPONED CARD THAT HAS A “ ? ” IN FRONT OF THE PLAYER'S NAME AND ANY OTHER CARDS NOT LISTED. [Of course, if the back side has markings from Collins-McCarthy post that too, otherwise the backs are essentially all the same except for condition.]

1933-36 Zeenuts (coupons expire April 1st 1934, April 1st 1935, April 1st 1936, and Oct 1st 1936).

Coupon expires April 1st 1934

? Blackerby (Portland) (with Portland 1933-35)
? Cavaney (Seals, Mgr.) [note: have April 1st 1935 Caveney not listed in Horne]
* Coscarart (Mission) (with Missions 1930 through first part of 1933, then Seattle for last half of 1933 and all 1934)
? Davis, Curt (Seals) (with Seals 1929-1933)
? Hafey (Mission) (small) (Bud Hafey with Missions 1930-1934, Tom Hafey with Missions 1934-35)
? Jacobs, A.J. "Art" (Portland) (with Portland 1932-33)

Coupon expires April 1st 1935

* Backer (Seals)
* Ballou, William (Seals)
? Biongovani (Seattle)
* Borja (Boroja), Tony (Sacramento)
* Carlyle, Cleo (Hollywood) dated 1935 or 1936
Caveney, Jim (Seals)
? Chelini (Mission)
? Coscarart (Seattle)
? Cox (Portland)
* DeMaggio (DiMaggio), Joe (Seals) batting
? DeViveiros (Oakland)
? Dittmar (Los Angeles)
?Donovan (Sacramento)
* Douglas, Ken (Seals)
? Durst (Hollywood)
* Eckhardt, Ox (Mission) April 1st 1935, shoe partially cut off by white border at bottom (need better scan)
? Fenton (Seals)
* Fitzpatrick (Mission)
*Gibson, Sam (Seals) white sleeves, lifted shoe is solid black below white sock
? Glaister (Oakland)
? Hafey, Tom (Mission)
? Haney (Hollywood)
? Hartwig (Sacramento) (large)
* Henderson, Bill (Seals)
* Herrmann, Leroy (Seals)
* Horne, Berlyn (Sacramento)
* House, Andy (Sacramento)
Hunt, Art (Seals)
? Johns (Hollywood)
? Joiner (Oakland)
? Kallio (Portland)
* Kampouris (Sacramento)
? Kelly, E. (Seattle)
? Lahman (Sacramento)
* Mailho, Ernie (Oakland)
* Mails, Walter (Seals)
? McEvoy (Oakland) (small)
? McIsaacs (Oakland)
McMullen (Seals)
* Mulligan, Eddie (Oakland) hands not showing
? Muller (Seattle)
? Oglesby (Los Angeles)
? Ostenberg (Saccramento)
* Page (Hollywood)
* Palmisano (Portland)
? Phebus (Oakland)
* Pillette, Ted (Mission)
* Pool (Oakland)
* Radonitz (Seattle)
? Reese (Los Angeles) (large)
? Salvo (Sacramento)
* Sever, Carl (Seals)
? Salinsen (Oakland)
? Sheely (Portland) (large)
* Stitzel, Hal (Los Angeles)
? Steinbacker (Sacramento) (large)
* Stutz, Ed (Seals) bag visible
* Sulik, Ernie (Seals)
* Vitt, Oscar (Hollywood, Mgr)
* Woodall, Larry (Seals) throwing (this is the small pose, actually April 1st 1936 is the large pose)

Coupon expires April 1st 1936

* Almada, Lou (Mission)
* Anton, Leroy (Oakland) (large)
* Ballou, William (Seals) (socks w/band - small)
? Beck (Mission)
* Becker, Joe (Seals)
* Borga (Boroja), Tony (Sacramento)
? Carlyle (Hollywood)
* Cole, Albert (Seals) with glove on hnnd
* Connors, Merv (Oakland)
* DeMaggio (DiMaggio), Joe (Seals) throwing
* Densmore, Jim (Seals)
* Douglas, Ken (Oakland) (small)
* Duggan, Mickey (Mission)
* Eckhardt, Ox (Mission), full shoe clear of border at bottom (small)
* Ellsworth, Floyd (Sacramento)
* Garibaldi, Art (Seals)
* Gibson, Sam (Seals) white sleeves, lifted shoe shows white “lacings”
* Hafey, Tom (Mission)
* Haid, Hal (Oakland)
* Hartwig (Sacramento) (small)
? Jolly (Hollywood)
* Kelly, Ernie (Oakland)
* Kintana, Leo (Oakland)
* Ludolph, Willie (Oakland)
* Mailho, Ernie (Oakland) possibly large or small
* Mails, Walter (Seals) (large)
* Marty, Joe (Seals) white sleeves
* Massuci, Tony (Seals)
* McEvoy, Lou (Oakland)
* McMullen (Oakland)
? Mitchell (Mission)
* Monzo, Vince (Seals)
* Mort, Roy (Mission) throwing
? Muller (Oakland) (large)
* Mulligan, Eddie (Oakland) hands showing
* Newkirk, Floyd (Seals)
? Nicholas (Mission)
* O'Doul, Lefty (seals) white sleeves
? Outen (Missioin) throwing
* Powers, Les (Seals)
? Ramondi (Oakland)
? Reese (Los Angeles)
* Rego, Jim (Oakland)
? Rhyne (Seals) (side view – foot high)
* Salvo, Manny (Sacramento)
* Sheehan, Ken (Seals) white sleeves
* Statz, Arnold 'Jigger' (Los Angeles)
* Steinbacker, Hank (Sacramento)
* Stitzel, Hal (Seals)
* Street, Charles (Mission, Mgr)
* Stutz, Ed (Seals) (no bag in background)
? Stroner (Sacramento)
* Thurston, Hollie (Mission)
* Vitt, Oscar (Oakland, Mgr)
* Walsh, Ed (Oakland)
* Wirts, Elwood (Sacramento)
Woodall, Larry (Seals)
* Wright, Al (Mission)
? Zinn (Seals)

Coupon expires Oct 1st 1936

* Almada, Lou (Mission) (specifically not “Missions” but “Mission”, most others of this series are plural)
? Anton (Oakland) (small)
* Ballou, William (Seals) (socks all black)
* Barath, Steve (Seals)
* Beck, C. (Missions)
? Beck, W. (Missions)
* Borja (Boroja), Tony (Seals)
* Cole, Albert (Seals) no glove
? Douglas (Oakland) (large)
* Francovich (Missions)
* Gibson, Sam (Seals) black sleeves
* Gira, Frank (Seals)
* Graves, Jim (Seals)
* Holder, Brooks (Seals)
? Johnson, D. (Missions)
* Johnson, Lloyd (Missions)
* Joost (Missions)
* Jorgensen, Jolly (Seals)
? Kamm (Missions, Mgr)
* Mails, Walter (Seals) (small)
* Marty, Joe (Seals) black sleeves
* Massuci, Tony (Seals)
* Monzo, Vince (Seals)
* Mort, Roy (Missons) batting
? Muller (Oakland)
* Nitcholas (Missions)
? Norbert (Seals) (small)
* O'Doul, Lefty (Seals) black sleeves
* Outen, Chink (Missions) batting
* Rhyne, Hal (Seals)
* Rosenberg, Harry (Missions)
* Salkeld (Seals)
* Sheehan, Ken (Seals)
? Sprinz (Missions)
* Starritt (Seals)
* Stewart (Missions)
*Stitzel, Hal (seals)
* Stoneham (Missions)
*Thurston, Hollis (Missions)
* Woodall, Larry (Seals) batting
* Wright, Al (Missions) (looking left)

Please note, for each player card listed above with a " ? " in front of the player's name, we a picture / scan of the front side of the Zeenut card with coupon attached. These cards are grouped according to the dates the coupons expire (April 1st 1934, April 1st 135, April 1st 1936 and Oct 1 1936).

Please use high resolution scans and if taking the picture by camera, try not to distort the shape of the card by tilting the camera.

Thanks,

Mike