1946 Parade Sportive Jackie Robinson; 2 offers?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by abctoo

My list of baseball players includes:

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I am looking for any versions of the pamphlet called "La Revue de la Parade Sportive" in which various photos were periodically run. Let me know if you have one, or at least the covers. Maybe you can provide scans?

Copyright 2020 by Michael Fried, P.O. Box 27521, Oakland, California 94602-0521

Wow.

Amazing info, thank you for posting.

If you have these baseball players, can you post scans? :
James Babcock
Paul Calvert
Club “Royaux 1946” Montréal Team (before Jackie Robinson joined)
Clay Hopper
Le ROYAL 1946 Championship Team including Jackie Robinson
Roy Portlow

Thank you, now I'm on the hunt...

Doug

[Exhibitman]

This variation is on eBay now:



Not mine.

[abctoo]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Wow.

Amazing info, thank you for posting.

If you have these baseball players, can you post scans?

Quick reply, more to come. Two of the 1946 Montreal Royals (Royaux) championship baseball team Parade Sportive releases with Jackie Robinson. They are both on about the same size sheet. While the same photos are used, they are of different sizes. Though the "Parade Sportive / Paul Stuart" logos are the same, there is variation in the wording next them. Obviously one has an advertisement and the other doesn't. Parade Sportive developed about 15 variations in its background formats across the couple of hundred different varieties of its sports photos. It is not uncommon to find as least three different background formats used for the same photo.





Will try to post the rest of the pictures sought as soon as time permits, but knew most of you wanted to see the Robinson's.

Copyright 2020 by Michael Fried, P.O. Box 27521, Oakland, California 94602-0521

[abctoo]

Originally Posted by abctoo

They are both on about the same size sheet.

I think "about the same size" is an overstatement, so here's a scan of the two 1946 Montreal Royals (Royaux) Championship Baseball Team Parade Sportives next to each other so you can see the relative size. Note, both refer to radio broadcasts on radio station CHLP with the left one indicating "C.H.L.P. vendiedis soirs 7 h. 30 p.m. jeudis 11-11 30 a.m." (Friday evenings 7:30 p.m. Thursdays 11-11:30 a.m.) and the right one, "CHLP tous les dimanches midis 12 30 p.m." (every Sunday noon 12:30 p.m.). [CHLP was a French-language Canadian radio station located in Montreal, Quebec which operated from December 31, 1932 to November 15, 1957.] The ad is for Auvents "Acme" (Acme Yawnings with "toutes sortes" = "of all kinds" in the lower left).

[doug.goodman]

Good stuff, love it.

[sealmark2]

Hello Mike:
I thought I had a complete set of these (BB only) but now I am beginning to wonder. I will look thru my binder and see what develops. Apparently there is a Robinson in "card" size as well as the larger paper size each of which I have. I also have many of the others with both ads at the bottom and without.
I too am in Nor Cal if you would like to meet up someday and compare what we have.

Sealmark

[abctoo]

Originally Posted by sealmark

Hello Mike:
I thought I had a complete set of these (BB only) but now I am beginning to wonder. I will look thru my binder and see what develops. Apparently there is a Robinson in "card" size as well as the larger paper size each of which I have. I also have many of the others with both ads at the bottom and without.
I too am in Nor Cal if you would like to meet up someday and compare what we have.

Sealmark

I am unaware of a card sized Parade Sportive. I think the confusion comes from most people not listing the size of the Parade Sportive they are showing. Likewise, I didn't give a size above. The standard size of those in the format of the Robinson pictured without the ad above is 5 x 8¼ inches, as are many others in different formats.

Over the years, even auction houses have failed to provide measurements. From the lack of information known (though they could measure their items) and that many want to sell such items to "card" collectors, I think it is easy to believe a card sized one exists. I'd sure like to see a scan of such a thing, but as yet haven't found any clear reference to them being actual "cards."

Mike

P.S. Be great to meet up, but I don't have many of these. Have a lot of other stuff though.

[sealmark2]

Mike:

My Jackie is the normal size about 8 !/4 by 5 1/2 while my card size is 3 1/2 by 5 1/2 and is on postcard stock. My records show I paid $75 plus $7 postage for it in 2004 and have a guarantee in writing from the seller in Canada that it is truly an original. The seller is/was an antique dealer at the time.

Mark

[abctoo]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

If you have these baseball players, can you post scans?

Here's a couple more, Paul Calvert and Clay Hopper. I misspelled one name in my baseball list above. It should read Roy Partlow (not Portlow). He came to the Royals from the Hometown Grays and Philadelphia Stars at the same time Jackie Robinson arrived from the Kansas City Monarchs. In the 1946 Championship team photos above, Partlow is at the far left and Robinson at the far right.





I'm still looking for complete copies of Parade Sportive publications entitled, PHOTOS / "CANADIENS" 1945-46 (the original edition, not the "2e Edition") and any volume of La Revue de la PARADE SPORTIVE. Looking to buy, but scans will get me through for the moment.

Thanks,

Mike

[doug.goodman]

Nice! Thank you

[sealmark2]

Hello All:
In the interest of transparency this may cause confusion. I have not looked at my Jackie postcard type card in maybe 15 years and as mentioned above have a note from the seller back in 2004 that is definitely "not a reprint". Now because we have been asked to post a scan we looked at it and at the bottom of the reverse in very tiny print is says "reprint".

Now that begs the question reprint of what ? Since we have seen no other posts stating they have the postcard size card could "reprint" simply mean a card made from the standard Parade Sportive issue or a reprint of a card which may be an original ? If the latter where are they?

I doubt that somebody would create just one postcard size card but who knows? Maybe.

Anyway "reprint" or not I like the card and if anybody till wants a scan we will see about doing so and thanks for your interest.

Sealmark

[Exhibitman]

My SWAG is that when someone figured out these were valuable they knocked out a repro to capitalize.

[abctoo]

Still need a picture of any variety of Jim Babcock. Anyone who can provide a scan, please post.

Parade Sportive Baseball Issues

James Babcock (Baseball) (played for Montreal Royals in 1943 only) [NEED SCAN]

Jack Banta (Baseball) 1944-45 Montreal Royals, part of 1946-47 Montreal Royals, 09-18 to 09-28 1947 Brooklyn Dodgers, part 1948 Montreal Royals, 04-21 to 04-26 1948 Brooklyn Dodgers, 04-21 to 10-02 1949 Brooklyn Dodgers

Stan Bréard (Baseball) 1944-45 and part 1946 Montreal Royals

Les Burge (Baseball) 1942 & 1946 Montreal Royals

Paul Calvert (Baseball) 1946 Toronto Maple Leafs

Al Camparis (Baseball) 1943 part Montreal Royals, 09-23 to 10-03 1943 Brooklyn Dodgers, 1946-7 Montreal Royals

CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1944 (Baseball) [person with dark pants standing at far right, same picture as the variety of CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1945 picturing person with dark pants standing at far right]

CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1945 (Baseball) [person with dark pants standing at far right, different picture than CLUB “ROYAUX” 1945, same picture as CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1944]

CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1945 (Baseball) [person with white pants standing at far right, same picture as CLUB “ROYAUX 1945” and the one captioned “Le club Montréal (les (Royaux) 1945”]

CLUB “ROYAUX 1945” (Baseball) [person with white pants standing at far right, same picture as one captioned “Le club Montréal (les (Royauz) 1945”, and the variety of CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1945 picturing person with white pants standing at far right]

CLUB “ROYAUX 1946” (Baseball) [same picture as “Le ROYAL, champion mondial du baseball mineur 1946”, Roy Partlow standing far left and Jackie Robinson standing far right]

Red Durrett (Baseball) 1944 part Montreal Royals, 09-14 to 10-01 1944 Brooklyn Dodgers, 1945 part Montreal Royals except 04-18 to 05-02 1945 Brooklyn Dodgers, 1946 Montreal Royals

Herman Franks (Baseball) 1941 part Montreal Royals, 06-14 to 09-20 1941 Brooklyn Dodgers, 1942 Montreal Royals, 1946 Montreal Royals

John Gabbard (Baseball) 1944-46 Montreal Royals

Roland Gladu (Baseball) 1932-33 Montreal Royals, 1945 Montreal Royals

Ray Hathaway (Baseball) 05-28- to 06-02 1945 Brooklyn Dodgers, Montreal Royals remainder of 1945,

Clay Hopper (Baseball). Manager 1946-49 Montreal

John “Spider” Jorgensen (Baseball) 1946 Montreal Royals, 1946 Brooklyn Dodgers

Le club Montréal (les Royaux) 1944 (Baseball) [person with dark pants standing at far right, same picture as CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1944 and CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1945, different picture than CLUB “ROYAUX” 1945]

Le club Montréal (les Royaux) 1945 (Baseball) [person with white pants standing at far right, same picture as CLUB “ROYAUX 1945” and the variety of CLUB MONTREAL (ROYAUX) 1945 picturing person with white pants standing far right]

Le ROYAL, champion mondial du baseball mineur 1946 (Baseball) [same picture as CLUB “ROYAUX 1946”, Roy Partlow standing far left and Jackie Robinson standing far right]

Paul “Pepper” Martin (Baseball)

Steve Nagy (Baseball) 1942 Montreal Royals, 1946 Montreal Royals

Roy Partlow (Baseball) (name misspelled 'Portlow') (Montreal Royals 1946)

Marvin Rackley (Baseball)1946 Montreal Royals, 1947 part St. Paul Saints but from 04-14- to 06-14 1947 Brooklyn Dodgers, 1948 part Montreal Royals but from 04-20 to 10-03 1948 Brooklyn Dodgers

Jackie Robinson (Baseball)

Jean-Pierre Roy (Baseball) 1945 & 1946 part Montreal Royals except 05-05 to 05-11 1946 Brooklyn Dodgers

trio: Roland Gladu – Jean Pierre Roy – Stan Bréard (Baseball)

Acrostiches sur les trois Mousquetaires des Royaux (Baseball) [Parade Sportive listed this one as a separate variety they produced, but it seems to be their “trio: Roland Gladu – Jean Pierre Roy – Stan Bréard”, if you have this an "Acrostiches" caption, we'd all like to see a scan]


Thanks,

Mike

P.S. To help with this project (including the hockey part), need a copy of Parade Sportive publications entitled, PHOTOS / "CANADIENS" 1945-46 (the original edition, not the "2e Edition") and any volume of La Revue de la PARADE SPORTIVE. Even a scan of some of the pages will do.

[abctoo]

Originally Posted by abctoo

Still need a picture of any variety of Jim Babcock . . .. Anyone who can provide a scan, please post. . . . P.S. To help with this project, still looking for a copy of Parade Sportive publications entitled, PHOTOS / "CANADIENS" 1945-46 (the original edition, not the "2e Edition") and any volume of La Revue de la PARADE SPORTIVE. Even a scan will do. Thanks, Mike

SEE CURRENT LIST OF BASEBALL RELEASES FROM PARADE SPORTIVE AT Post #33 above.

Thanks to member John E. Scott, here's a scan of the Roy Partlow issue. They did spell his name wrong (as Portlow).

[abctoo]

Originally Posted by sealmark

. . . the bottom of the reverse in very tiny print is says "reprint". . . . Now that begs the question reprint of what ? . . . Anyway "reprint" or not I like the card and if anybody till wants a scan we will see about doing so and thanks for your interest. Sealmark

Make it easier on you, Sealmark. It's a postcard issued in 1997 as part of a series commemorating the 50th Anniversary the Major League Baseball finally breaking the "color" barrier. Also reprinted were Jackie Robinson's "Old Gold" card and perhaps some others. Larry Fritsch Cards has been selling ones with postmarks on eBay for $9.