1966 Topps High's - Any uncut sheets or partial sheets known?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I remember reading posts in this thread regarding "White Sox" being a part of the sixth series printing, but let me play devil's advocate for a moment. Is it possible that that version could have also appeared in the last series (along with the "W. Sox" cards)? Since there was no 'future' checklist to print, because it was the last series of cards for the year, did they double up on #517...and possibly have the two different versions coming off of the presses at the same time? I mean, is there a way to definitively rule out that scenario, circumstantial evidence aside? That would really throw a monkey wrench into the works, wouldn't it? Ha ha.

Just noting that the "White Sox" miscut must have been on a 6th series sheet, not a 7th, due to the bright white stock that was not used for the 7th series. It's possible both versions were issued in series 7 until we finish a sheet layout and can then know one way or another; but this particular example certainly was a 6th series card.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

Just noting that the "White Sox" miscut must have been on a 6th series sheet, not a 7th, due to the bright white stock that was not used for the 7th series. It's possible both versions were issued in series 7 until we finish a sheet layout and can then know one way or another; but this particular example certainly was a 6th series card.

It has to be #518 Braves Rookies above the #517 Checklist White Sox version, it is the only rookie card between 447-522 with a violet(?) name stripe and neither of the two team cards in that series have a violet(?) stripe.

[JollyElm]

The stripe is definitely light blue. In fact, it seems to be just a tad darker than the light blue in the body of the checklist.

Here's #518 stuck above the #517 in question. The colors are not a match...

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My reason for wondering if "White Sox" versions of the checklist could have also appeared in the 7th series is because the card above could possibly (but most likely doubtfully) be the #526 Twins team. if you look towards the left (of the original pic, not the one posted here), there is blue over there too, matching the setup of the team cards and the rookie cards with the angled color stripe. Was there a team card in blue in the 6th series, and/or is there a different card that has a blue 'nameplate' and also a blue stripe (or whatever) on the upper left side?? If there's a 'blue' rookies card in the 6th series, than that's probably it, right?

This crap is fascinating!!!!

[Cliff Bowman]

The #518 Braves Rookies is the only team or rookies card from #447-522 with a similar color, all of the other team and rookies cards in that series are colors nowhere even close.

[JollyElm]

Here's more food for thought...that adds even more wrinkles to the problem. The checklist has the red/magenta plate very much misaligned, so it's possible that the light blue stripe on the card above it could very well supposed to be violet/purple (or perhaps a different color?), but the red is missing (and would have been printed above the blue sliver that is visible). There's no way to know if the blue we see is as it's supposed to be, or if it is missing a part of its color makeup. This logical hole keeps getting deeper.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Here's more food for thought...that adds even more wrinkles to the problem. The checklist has the red/magenta plate very much misaligned, so it's possible that the light blue stripe on the card above it could very well supposed to be violet/purple (or perhaps a different color?), but the red is missing (and would have been printed above the blue sliver that is visible). There's no way to know if the blue we see is as it's supposed to be, or if it is missing a part of its color makeup. This logical hole keeps getting deeper.

If anyone knows what color you get when you mix red with light blue then we can nail it .

[JollyElm]

One other thing of note. If you examine the blue sliver above the checklist, it is undoubtedly much thinner than the width (or is it height since the card is sideways??) of the team nameplates, so I have no problem concluding it is a rookies card up there...whether ultimately blue, violet/purple, or something else.

[Bigdaddy]

I'm suggesting that instead of referring to the checklist as W. Sox or White Sox, that we refer to it as Cards or Cardinals.

Interesting to note that both the White Sox and Cardinals finished with the same W/L record in 1966 - 83/79.

Ok, something to add to the thread - if you look at the number 518 above closely, you can see that the right (bottom) side of the nameplate has a slight blue tint while the left side (top) has a more red tint. This could correspond to a slight shift of the red ink (we've seen that before) to the left (top) of the card. And given the strong shift of red in the #517 checklist, you could see where that purple nameplate would appear light blue.

Am I crazy? NVM, don't answer that.

[Kevvyg1026]

Here's why I believe 525 is in the row C (Hoerner) below 561 (which is in Perranowski row).

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[Kevvyg1026]

Found this miscut on #586 today. Any ideas which card might be below it?


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[Kevvyg1026]

Also found this. Any suggestions as to what card might be at left? The cards that are still not placed are: 528, 532 (but this has 552 on its right), 538, 541, 552, 556, 566, 569 (but I suspect it can't be this card), 570, 576, 586, 590.

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[Kevvyg1026]

The miscut to the checklist left cannot be 586 (now above 583) or 532 (left of 552).

I am also surprised that the cards above and/or below the checklist haven't been identified as it would seem that a miscut would clearly show the complete yellow (front) or the carmine (?) back. And since the checklist is in column 11, most of the possibilities of the top/bottom card above it are rookie cards.

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Also found this. Any suggestions as to what card might be at left? The cards that are still not placed are: 528, 532 (but this has 552 on its right), 538, 541, 552, 556, 566, 569 (but I suspect it can't be this card), 570, 576, 586, 590.

Attachment 417788

I'm going with 538 to the left of the checklist based on the color and the top right corner boarder.

[Kevvyg1026]

I was wondering if this might be above Tigers team, #583??

[Kevvyg1026]

I am referring to the Raymond card miscut, #586.

[deweyinthehall]

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[stlcardsfan]

It really surprises me the W. Sox and Cards rookies checklist does not sell for a big premium compared to the other 7th series checklist. Especially considering its location in the G. Jackson row.