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Updated top half of 1963 7th series sheet. ETA, it splits up on cellphones.
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Updated bottom half of 1963 7th series sheet. ETA, it splits up on cellphones.
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Do any of these wrong back cards help?
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Thanks, but I already have them. Wrong back 63’s are very informative, they almost always have parts of abutting cards on the back, and they are always the mirror of the card on the front. A wrong back 63 is always the result of the back being printed upside down, so that means Curt Flood, who is the card in the upper right corner of the sheet, will always have Jay Hook, who is the card in the lower left corner of the sheet, as the wrong back and vice versa. I was able to find quite a few 6th series wrong backs which was very invaluable to laying out that sheet, unfortunately I have found very few 7th series wrong backs. ETA, a 1963 6th and 7th series yellow based wrong back card always has a red based card on the back and vice versa, but a 1963 6th and 7th series blue based wrong back always has a blue based card on the back, which is a huge part of my hypothesis of how the sheets are laid out.
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Wayne Causey is opposite of Larry Osborne in the 7th series 22 blue based card block. There are two cards in the 7th series blue based orange inset circle 11 card row that have two different positions on their cards, Wayne Causey and Johnny Blanchard, but it is definitely Causey.
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I now have this combination but I don't know where they are placed exactly on the sheet.
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Great stuff Cliff..... watching where this comes out.
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There is currently a wrong back card for sale on ebay depicting a front of #466 and a back of #496.
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Can you please post a link? I can't find it. It works out that I have the Freehan as the top card on the left edge of the yellow 22 card block and I have Dalkowski as the bottom card on the right edge of the red 22 card block, because 1963 wrong backs are always the mirror opposite of the front. It looks like it would throw off my theory on the placement of at least one of the 22 card blocks though, but that is a work in progress. I have some updates on other cards but I am waiting on off center center cards from Greg Morris on eBay. ETA: according to my theorized sheet I have the Freehan card as the first card in the second row and I have the Dalkowski as the last card on the eleventh row, so that would still work out if the back of the sheet was printed upside down like every other wrong 63 that I have ever seen is.
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After nearly six months when I started this thread the 6th Series sheet is nearly complete. It wouldn't be anywhere near this far without the invaluable work of Kevvyg1026. A few months ago he figured out that on the 6th Series sheet the Yellow/Red row goes on top rather than the Yellow/Blue row, and more importantly that the blue rows go in the 3-4 and 9-10 horizontal rows rather than the incorrect 5-6 and 7-8 horizontal rows that I had originally. We also sent scans of miscut cards back and forth through email and about a month ago he sent me what I consider the most valuable miscut of the whole series, a miscut Art Fowler with part of a different color card that could only be Charlie Neal. It was proof that the Yellow/Blue row abutted the Blue/Orange row. The two missing Blue/Red cards are Chuck Estrada and Dave Wickersham. I was also missing the Blue/Red card of Tex Clevenger but Kevvyg1026 sent me a scan of a miscut Clevenger and I was able to match it up to Ken McBride. The 6th Series was less difficult than the 7th Series because of the many wrong back cards that exist in the 6th Series, they are almost nonexistent in the 7th Series. The reason 1963 wrong backs are so informative is that the back of the card is from a sheet that was printed upside down, so the card on the front is the mirror image of the card on the back. For instance, a wrong back Bill Freehan rookie will always have a Steve Dalkowski rookie on the back and vice versa. The sheet repeats the same 66 cards to make a full 132 card sheet.
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Do the miscuts on the back of the wrong backs help at all?
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Absolutely, if there is a sliver from another card that can be shown to be from a particular card. That is how I came up with Cuno Barragan next to Wayne Causey, on a miscut Causey back there are two stray lines that I matched up to the Barragan that has two lines of the cartoon that extend beyond the border line. Also, the wrong backs are never centered properly and that is how I figured out the placement of many of the 6th series cards including the Killebrew.
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Although you most likely have this one, I just saw the image so I thought I would post. Not only is it a WB, but the back is miscut as well, like you stated earlier.
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