Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Picked these two up in the last few weeks. Priced too cheaply to pass up. They have to be at least 100 years old. Both 34" excluding tassels. Anyone have any idea who the maker would be on these? Chicago Pennant Co. was around at that time.

I've found a similar pennant (but not exact) using the same font and a circle shaped graphic, as on the Harvard pennant. The tag on that one reads: Henry Schwartz of 15 Ann St New York.

Domer...Does that name meaning anything to you?

Great pennants! So, I've never once come across that maker you identified: Henry Schwartz of New York City. I don't know that the two pennants were made by the same maker ... could be. Hard to say, right? The two letter fonts used are similar; but not identical.

That style of font was used throughout the 1910s by several pennant makers that had adopted the screen printing method for felt pennants; and, you couldn't replicate this font via any other method (i.e., sewn letters).

The fact that they were screen printed tells us they were made after 1907; probably closer to 1910, when this method became more widely used.

The most obvious candidate for either maker was The Reproduction Co. of New York City. They are believed to be the first manufacturer to patent and manufacture pennants via the screen printed method. With that said, they tended to use the same stock graphic illustrations; and these don't appear to be ones they used. Two other possibilities: Annin; and Langrock Bros., both of New York City. Both followed Reproduction Co.'s lead in adopting screen printing by the early 1910s.

Although Chicago Pennant Co. opened its doors by 1910, I don't believe they made these. Their earliest pennants all had labels that clearly identified them by name and address; and, I don't believe they ever screen printed a pennant in the 1910s (or ever?). Their early stuff was all sewn letter; and by the 1940s, they used primarily flocked graphics.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Great pennants! So, I've never once come across that maker you identified: Henry Schwartz of New York City. I don't know that the two pennants were made by the same maker ... could be. Hard to say, right? The two letter fonts used are similar; but not identical.

That style of font was used throughout the 1910s by several pennant makers that had adopted the screen printing method for felt pennants; and, you couldn't replicate this font via any other method (i.e., sewn letters).

The fact that they were screen printed tells us they were made after 1907; probably closer to 1910, when this method became more widely used.

The most obvious candidate for either maker was The Reproduction Co. of New York City. They are believed to be the first manufacturer to patent and manufacture pennants via the screen printed method. With that said, they tended to use the same stock graphic illustrations; and these don't appear to be ones they used. Two other possibilities: Annin; and Langrock Bros., both of New York City. Both followed Reproduction Co.'s lead in adopting screen printing by the early 1910s.

Although Chicago Pennant Co. opened its doors by 1910, I don't believe they made these. Their earliest pennants all had labels that clearly identified them by name and address; and, I don't believe they ever screen printed a pennant in the 1910s (or ever?). Their early stuff was all sewn letter; and by the 1940s, they used primarily flocked graphics.

Ahhh yes. Thanks Kyle. I forgot about The Reproduction Company. I did a quick scan of your website to see who was around back then and they weren't listed. Will you be doing an article on them?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Ahhh yes. Thanks Kyle. I forgot about The Reproduction Company. I did a quick scan of your website to see who was around back then and they weren't listed. Will you be doing an article on them?

Yep, I plan to cover The Reproduction Co. next.

I just finished my write-up on Keezer Mfg. Co. I'll post that article in a few days.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Yep, I plan to cover The Reproduction Co. next.

I just finished my write-up on Keezer Mfg. Co. I'll post that article in a few days.

Looking forward to both!

[Fballguy]

The annual pennant sort/reconciliation is underway. Been meaning to do this since quarantine started in March.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

The annual pennant sort/reconciliation is underway. Been meaning to do this since quarantine started in March.

Nice. Please post any cream of the crop that we haven't seen!

[ooo-ribay]

Did you guys see this? Pretty decent price ($345) for a 10 inch pennant.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Nice. Please post any cream of the crop that we haven't seen!

The original plan for today was to build a google album of just my baseball pennants, but once I started I realized a full reboot was in order. Only got halfway done today. My wife is a good sport.

Of course, "her half" of the bedroom looks fairly normal.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

The annual pennant sort/reconciliation is underway. Been meaning to do this since quarantine started in March.

Would love to see your Eagles pennants... I don’t have many football, but this is probably my favorite, any idea as far as age?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Would love to see your Eagles pennants... I don’t have many football, but this is probably my favorite, any idea as far as age?

That logo is similar to the Eagles logo of the 1930s, but I don't know if this pennant goes back that far. I have a full size version in green, I've always attributed to the 1950s, but it's likely older.

I've been playing around sorting out pennants for the past few days. Again the intent was a baseball project but I've back burnered that idea while I take inventory on my football. I'll take some Eagles pics and share. In the meantime, here's a few I took in the last 24 hours. I had no idea I had so many duplicate Rams.

[perezfan]

NM

[thetahat]

Okay somebody explain this Lelands auction to me. I just got a red one in REA for an even grand that came in a frame that might have cost half that alone. This one is exploding. I think this one is slightly better condition, but is blue the harder color than red? My searches seem to come up about even.

Whatever the case, if one of you wins it, and you want a frame made just for this pennant ....

[ooo-ribay]

What do you guys think of this? Another Net54 member alerted me of it. Any tough pennants in there? What do you think it would have done on ebay?

https://www.equip-bid.com/auction/74...173?offset=160

[thetahat]

[QUOTE=ooo-ribay;1989402]What do you guys think of this? Another Net54 member alerted me of it. Any tough pennants in there? What do you think it would have done on ebay?

https://www.equip-bid.com/auction/74...173?offset=160[/QUOTE

Interesting .... looks like a good deal!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What do you guys think of this? Another Net54 member alerted me of it. Any tough pennants in there? What do you think it would have done on ebay?

https://www.equip-bid.com/auction/74...173?offset=160

Nothing too rare in there but for that price a nice deal. It's showing as closed to me.

And on that note...Great. Now there's another website I'll be compelled to monitor for the once in a blue moon they actually have an interesting pennant.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

And on that note...Great. Now there's another website I'll be compelled to monitor for the once in a blue moon they actually have an interesting pennant.

I wouldn’t bother. It seems to be a local Kansas City site....altho they will ship.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Okay somebody explain this Lelands auction to me. I just got a red one in REA for an even grand that came in a frame that might have cost half that alone. This one is exploding. I think this one is slightly better condition, but is blue the harder color than red? My searches seem to come up about even.

Whatever the case, if one of you wins it, and you want a frame made just for this pennant ....

I'll explain it like this:

If I'm selling, I get the red price.

If I want to buy, it goes for the blue price.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I'll explain it like this:

If I'm selling, I get the red price.

If I want to buy, it goes for the blue price.

LOL...So true.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Okay somebody explain this Lelands auction to me. I just got a red one in REA for an even grand that came in a frame that might have cost half that alone. This one is exploding. I think this one is slightly better condition, but is blue the harder color than red? My searches seem to come up about even.

Whatever the case, if one of you wins it, and you want a frame made just for this pennant ....

i'm not a pennant collector, I'm a Dodger collector who likes pennants, and for me, the blue version is the only one I would be interested in. I personally don't like it in red, but I also won't be the one spending $5k on this one.