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Old 05-12-2020, 06:44 AM
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I don't really understand how anyone can have a different opinion on Harper. The Phillies went 80-82 in 2018. They spent 300 million dollars on one player to go 81-81 in 2019.

What makes that player properly valued?
How are the Angels doing with Trout (and Pujols)?


Also someone mentioned the Nats winning the WS after losing Harper. How about the 2001 Mariners? They got rid of Griffey, Randy Johnson, Arod then went on to win more games than anyone ever.
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Old 05-12-2020, 07:22 AM
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I am one of the someone who mentioned the Nats getting rid of Harper, then winning the WS immediately after. Yes, Seattle let loose of Aroid, Griffey, and Johnson- over a 3 year stretch though, not one. And, unless I am delinquent on my WS knowledge, Seattle did NOT follow up with a WS win. ( I am sure someone will correct me if wrong
In an effort to extend an olive branch, however, I'd be happy to include Griffey on the overrated list ( his career was a tale of two wildly different halves- one phenomenal and the other forgettable) and of course ARod (no explanation offered or, one would hope, needed).
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:55 AM
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How are the Angels doing with Trout (and Pujols)?


Also someone mentioned the Nats winning the WS after losing Harper. How about the 2001 Mariners? They got rid of Griffey, Randy Johnson, Arod then went on to win more games than anyone ever.

I really wish people used analogies correctly. The Angels have gotten 3 MVPs out of Trout. They didn't pay him to stay because they thought he was the difference maker in a tight window to win a title. They paid him to stay because he's maybe the greatest individual player in history and they're getting what they paid for in terms of his production.

If the Phillies signed Harper to put them over the top (which I don't think anyone can argue against), his play made him irrelevant which makes him overrated. It's that simple to me.
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Old 05-12-2020, 03:48 PM
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I think its probably too early to say that Trout's the greatest player ever (at least in my estimation). I do agree that he's been pretty phenomenal thus far.
And he certainly puts people in the seats and causes them to buy his stuff. So long as he's making the Angels money, I imagine the ownership will be happy.
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Statistically, Rogers Hornsby is on the short list of the greatest players ever. During his lifetime he was rated as the greatest second baseman of all time and his stats are eye-popping. But, I wonder if we get past that, what do we have? Could you imagine a guy with these kinds of numbers getting traded so many times in such a short time? And, after the Frankie Frisch trade, he was getting traded for nobodies. Multiple teams felt that they were better off with "The Rajah" gone than to have him on the roster. I've heard other players say nice things about Ty Cobb. I've never heard anyone say anything positive about Hornsby's personality.

So, as far as overrated goes, could a guy be such a cancer in the clubhouse that he could actually be overrated despite putting up such gaudy numbers?
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