T218 series breakdown and ad backs

[Bill77]

I checked my Flanagan and it has the same marks, just not as easy to spot, and I found 3 other cards with similar marks.

[G1911]

These printers marks are present on, I think, every card in the first series, certainly every vertically oriented one. The horizontal images have them closer to the center of the card sometimes. The exact placement varies slightly, and the clarity of the marks varies heavily from card to card, with some being difficult to even spot and other times clear as day.

[G1911]

Documenting another Cloughan, that sold for $43.56 in January. I believe this makes 7 identified Cloughan's. Factory 649 again, leaving the master set at 630 cards. I still think the 3 series 1 spelling errors were all probably corrected at different times in the print run. Cloughan very early, Gillis soon after that, and Trudenbach significantly later, though still early in the overall printing as it is a small minority of his cards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-T218-M...72.m2749.l2649

[DaveW]

Here’s another one that I bought on EBay just a few weeks before that one was listed. It went unnoticed so I got it for less than $4.
Another factory 649. Still looking for a factory 30.

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[G1911]

$4 is a heck of a deal! That makes 8 I am aware of. Who knows how many are out there. Each one would make it seem more likely that the error carried over into the very first print run of the factory 30 backs like Gillis/Gilles. Kind of hope it doesn't exist so that I can maybe finish the master one day, if it exists it's one tough card.

[DaveW]

Well, now we know it does exist! I assume one of you guys bought it. Congrats!


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[G1911]

It should be in the mail on the way to me. I was hoping you wouldn’t notice so I could get away with it cheap instead . There are 10 factory 649’s I’ve seen or have been posted here or emailed/texted to me (I don’t want to call that “known”, but it’s something of a count to compare relatively at least…).

Johnson Green Hassan Series 2 notation factory 30 is confirmed recently as well by another member. My master checklist of confirmed cards is at 632, of which I have 618 in hand to ‘prove beyond doubt’ + this one. I think this Cloughan was the last card I had at a fairly high percentage chance it could exist but was up unconfirmed, but what the heck do I know?

I’ll email you my latest checklist sheet, it’s been awhile sir.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by DaveW

Well, now we know it does exist! I assume one of you guys bought it. Congrats!


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Just documenting that there is at least one other copy out there with the F30 back. I have no idea who owns this card, but while with family for the holidays I found an old hard drive with some of my original card research and notes from the mid 2000's on boxing cards. This word file was last edited when I was 15 in 2006, when there was very little publicly available information on boxing cards and so I was doing it myself for my own check listing. It turns out the original Cloughan I noticed back then was a factory 30, so technically I confirmed it before the 649 even and then.... just forgot because I'm an idiot. It must have been more than the meager dollars I could put together back then, pretty sure it was not listed as an error.

Worst of all, this document has a log I apparently made of all my boxing bids from this time period. It is a little depressing to see my notations of just how little I paid for things, and the things I let go because I only had like $10 a week to spend on cards. Wasn't that long ago, but would love to still get Silvers for $3 a pop.

Most frustratingly I noted the sale of a "blank back Jack Johnson (Blue) T218 that appears to be cut from an advertising poster" but either didn't save the image, or that image has been corrupted on this old drive.