Will this stock market madness affect cards?

[ullmandds]

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

How would you like to have the seat next to him on a plane, back in the day.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

How would you like to have the seat next to him on a plane, back in the day.

nooooooo thx!

[SMPEP]

Paul,

We have the most cases in the world. The virus started in a country that is 3-4 times our size, with a much higher population density, that is poorer than us, and that has a less advanced medical infrastructure - and yet they had fewer cases and fewer deaths. They also didn't have it spread across their entire country like we have. And they have recovered and are getting back to work after a relatively short period - one that is guaranteed to be shorter than ours. Those are just the facts.

So explain to me ... what of Trump's response has been good?

Yes, I expect we will outperform Italy in our response, but Korea, Japan, China ... heck even Iran have all handled the situation better than America has. At best you can say ... our response has not been impressive.

Frankly, every American owes Rudy Gobert a debt of thanks. Imagine how insanely bad this would be now if he wasn't an idiot that forced the NBA (and NHL, soccer, etc.) to take action. Imagine the wide spread devastation that would have occurred because of the NCAA tournament. People flying in from all around the country to multiple locations. Congregating in huge crowds. Going to hotels and restaurants.

Our sports and business leaders have provided the correct leadership and response to this crisis ... not our federal government ... unlike China, Korea, Japan, etc.

Hopefully, our sports and business leaders continue to make the tough, but necessary choices, no matter what our political leaders say.
Patrick

[Rhotchkiss]

This thread, which was intended to be about the stock market's effect on card values, has gone to total shit.

Leon, can one block an entire thread? (only kind of kidding)

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

This thread, which was intended to be about the stock market's effect on card values, has gone to total shit.

Leon, can one block an entire thread? (only kind of kidding)

Seconded, at minimum water cooler

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

Paul,

We have the most cases in the world. The virus started in a country that is 3-4 times our size, with a much higher population density, that is poorer than us, and that has a less advanced medical infrastructure - and yet they had fewer cases and fewer deaths. They also didn't have it spread across their entire country like we have. And they have recovered and are getting back to work after a relatively short period - one that is guaranteed to be shorter than ours. Those are just the facts.

So explain to me ... what of Trump's response has been good?

Yes, I expect we will outperform Italy in our response, but Korea, Japan, China ... heck even Iran have all handled the situation better than America has. At best you can say ... our response has not been impressive.

Frankly, every American owes Rudy Gobert a debt of thanks. Imagine how insanely bad this would be now if he wasn't an idiot that forced the NBA (and NHL, soccer, etc.) to take action. Imagine the wide spread devastation that would have occurred because of the NCAA tournament. People flying in from all around the country to multiple locations. Congregating in huge crowds. Going to hotels and restaurants.

Our sports and business leaders have provided the correct leadership and response to this crisis ... not our federal government ... unlike China, Korea, Japan, etc.

Hopefully, our sports and business leaders continue to make the tough, but necessary choices, no matter what our political leaders say.
Patrick

First - Andre's story is an amazing one, definitely check it out.

OK, so finally someone brings something to the table other then "you're an idiot, your an a--hole." I've been hearing that for years, come up with something more clever folks.

Ok, great point on the NBA, just amazing that all this shutdown stuff started with that. But I didn't hear CNN calling for a massive shutdown before this or anyone really, so hard to blame the President. Think about it, was he supposed to close the country while the idiot Democrats were wasting time impeaching him. Maybe had they not done all that BS he would have had more time to focus on this.

So before you or CNN or any Demo's throw stones. Maybe instead of their non-stop pouting and attacking the President they could have used their platform for good, but they didn't, they don't and they won't.

I compare the Democrats to a team that lost a game and didn't want to shake the hands of the opponent, and then complained about their opponent and whined (for 4 years mind you) instead of saying hey what could we have done better. Now because they didn't do that they don't even have a candidate who can beat Trump. They outstupided themselves.

And I'm not a Republican. So don't take this as a Republican's view of thing. I'm in the middle, like a little of both sides, dislike some of both sides. I even liked Obama, he too though made some mistakes, but overall not a bad job, and I loved his yearly NCAA picks. And I'd even go so far to say Obama is probably the better person then Trump, and even more Presidential, but Trump knocked it out of park on the economy/stock market/lowest unemployment/trade deal with China. Crisis aside as no one could have seen this coming. But he honestly will probably be the best to get the economy back when this is all said and done, and I like Biden too, but if you have been watching him lately, sorry he's just not the best person for the job. If he was 5-10 years younger, I might even say Biden over Trump, but and sadly he's just past his prime. Real good guy though.

And mind you this is what makes me a tremendous umpire during baseball season. EVERY coach says it and many fans compliment me. And that's no easy task if you've been to a youth baseball game. I take neither side, and if a pitcher or batter shows me up, I don't punish them by making the next call against them. I call it like I see it. If I blow a call, I will get both coaches together and say I blew that call, lets fix it. I don't get stubborn and say my call stands. Had I umped that Tigers game I would have fixed that call (before replay mind you) and that pitcher would have his perfect game. So some background and trying to keep this baseball related too.

So last to your question what President Trump has done right, and yes he can be an ass to some reporters and in the past to females, and at times says the wrong thing. Get over it. Who is perfect? Cast the first stone.

What he has done in this unprecedented nightmare of a situation is keep the economy afloat. He's getting money to Americans who need it to pay bills & get by until this is over, increasing/extending unemployment. Getting money to businesses. All the while balancing it with the social distancing, which is a stupid name mind you, it should be called physical distancing, but that's another error on the media. E1. He's getting all this sh-t done working with 50 States and Governors, each wanting the very most for their state, and that is no easy task. Getting ventilators built, hospitals built, ships coming in. AND He's not afraid to get some back to work as he knows how important it is to the bigger picture which CNN will NOT mention. What could come of a 3, 6, 12 month or more shutdown. Yes he's made some mistakes, but seriously who wouldn't in this mess of a situation.

[1880nonsports]

and while I'd like to address some of your more off topic and slanted diatribes - I think you should find a politically oriented site. No wonder that people that want to discuss baseball cards block you and the vitriolic and often condescending commentary.

[AustinMike]

My apologies to the board. There are no card/autograph related items in the post. But, I promise you, this will be my last response to a certain individual. I promise.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

That took of time & thinking on your part, I'll give you that, we all have some extra time, me too. You like to make assumptions, well maybe I should as well. You are probably retired, have a decent savings and enjoying your retirement. Must be nice.

Yeah, it must be nice. When I retire I’ll let you know.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

And how you spin it, very creative. Like I said I WANT some to die. Not even close. I said LIKE WAR some will die, it's inevitable. Maybe pay more attention to what I said rather then working on your little witty comebacks.

Pay more attention to what I said rather than working on your thoughtless comebacks. I said you want to sacrifice people. Which is a fact. I never said you want people to die. You did say you don’t care how many die. Right?

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

We are going to risk all this for 93 deaths since December, and yes I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, who cares.

So maybe you should pay more attention to what YOU said. Let’s see, we’re up to over 1,700 now, but, “who cares,” right?

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

How many deaths will that create from suicides, drinking & drug problems, domestic abuse rising, rise in crime, rioting and looting which will come if people arn't at work, and unemployed for months. Not to mention countless lives ruined. So while I may not be on the popular "hey lets pat this guy on the back he said everything politically correct" side. I'm in the real world Pal.

I don’t know, but why do you care “how many deaths that will create”? Your quote seems to fit here as well.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

yes I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, who cares.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Yet you spin it as MY financial game, such an idiot. And a small closed minded one at that, and those minions who blindly applaud you. Too dense to think about the larger picture that could be.

More fearmongering from someone with no argument other than name calling. And yes, not having the economy tank would be for your financial GAIN.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Probably all criticizing Trump, yet no solutions given. You can't have healthy people out of work for too long bottom line. You have your nest egg I'm sure and are probably retired and can wait this out until the end of time, but the vast majority can not, which shows I care more about people then you. 20-30% unemployed. You are good with that? You need to think about that.

The solution is to follow the advice of the experts and keep things shut down as long as necessary. You really don’t get that is what we “dense” people are suggesting? Wow.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

.......hey we all have ideas.

Those choosing to condemn mine have not once given theirs, which I find interesting.

Easy to not get criticized when your posts are just like CNN: bashing, yet not offering any ideas solutions, just putting those down who do. That's fine. It's what you do, I get it.

Played a lot a hockey back in the day, was an instigator, so quite used to getting a beating.....but gave them as well, so tread lightly.

What I find interesting is that you don’t realize that I and others are arguing that sacrificing people for your financial gain is wrong, i.e., keep people at home to minimize the loss of life. And we’re “dense,” right? Oh, and the threat at the end is a nice touch.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

And I get it. Nobody WANTS anyone to die, including me. Ya'll are missing the point. These deaths are inevitable. People will die from this. Accept it.

Reminds me of what Clayton Williams said in 1990 during his run for governor of Texas, “Rape is kinda like the weather. If it’s inevitable, relax and enjoy it.” He lost by the way.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Now everyone is like phew, at least the economy while taking a hit won't fall apart completely.

WRONG!!! It could very well continue to sink lower and lower if we choose the shut it down for too long.

More fearmongering. The economy will get worse. But it will bounce back. It always has, even after wars. So stop fearmongering.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

OK, so finally someone brings something to the table other then "you're an idiot, your an a--hole." I've been hearing that for years, come up with something more clever folks.

Entirely understandable.

I’ll forego any response to your political attacks. They don’t belong here. However, I will quote a political figure and let you decide how great a job is being done.

Feb. 26, “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

Feb. 29 – 24 people known to be infected in the US
Mar. 7 - 279 people known to be infected in the US
Mar. 14 – 2,234 people known to be infected in the US
Mar. 21 – 24,583 people known to be infected in the US
Mar. 28 – >100,000 people known to be infected in the US

[Baseball Fan]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

First - Andre's story is an amazing one, definitely check it out.

OK, so finally someone brings something to the table other then "you're an IDIOT, your an a--hole." I've been hearing that for years, come up with something more clever folks.

Ok, great point on the NBA, just amazing that all this shutdown stuff started with that. But I didn't hear CNN calling for a massive shutdown before this or anyone really, so hard to blame the President. Think about it, was he supposed to close the country while the IDIOT Democrats were wasting time impeaching him.

Hi Shoeless,

Did you just do the same thing?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fan

Hi Shoeless,

Did you just do the same thing?

Yes.

[perezfan]

This thread needs to go bye-bye.

I do agree with the part about supporting our local restaurants, though. The restaurant business is perhaps the hardest-hit segment of all, and many will be shutting down permanently as a result of this.

Check with your favorite establishments, to see what take-out options are available. There are some raging take-out deals right now, and we should all do what we can to keep this industry afloat. All of the cooks, waiters, waitresses, receptionists, bussers, valets and restaurant managers will be forever grateful.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

If drinking was a sport Andre would be the greatest of all time.

That is obviously my card and it isn't going down in value.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

If drinking was a sport Andre would be the greatest of all time.

That is obviously my card and it isn't going down in value.

I won’t add to the arguement, but I will say if you have not seen the documentary (ESPN I think) on the life of Andre the Giant you are doing ourself a disservice. It’s one of the best I have ever seen related to sports. Plenty of time to watch now too.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

Here is a sports card for you. I have a similar situation with Tyson rookies.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Here is a sports card for you. I have a similar situation with Tyson rookies.

I gotta get me one of them tyson rookies!!!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Here is a sports card for you. I have a similar situation with Tyson rookies.

Italian version? Better soak that in bleach!

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Italian version? Better soak that in bleach!

Yes I have mostly Italian backs. I have this 10, 5 PSA 9's and an 8. I want to upgrade my UK back that is an 8 at some point to a 10 when I can. I still have one raw beater I was planning on getting sighed. At one point I had quite a few more but sold some along the way.

Unfortunately there is a lot of confusion on this sticker.

The Italian back is from 1986 and the UK back is from 87. Many are mislabeled so you have to make sure you get a back scan.