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Old 03-17-2020, 08:43 AM
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Recent reports say that UK health officials fear that possibly up to 80% or Britains will get it over the upcoming year. With a 1% death rate, that would mean approx. 500,000 British would die.

Just something I read. Don't pretend to be an expert.
Who cares? We need to stop being afraid of what "could" happen? No one will say it, but I will. It's cold, but at some point, we have to not live in fear. And that's what is ruling right now and being stoked by the news media. Does anyone realize this broke in December and the US deaths to date due to this is a whopping 93???????

Gov Cuomo said we are at war. War with the virus, so he too Mr Early Wynn fan compared it to war. And in War you lose lives.

And all this over 93 deaths (75 million in WWII), and again most are very old people, sorry older people but if you are 80 or 90 your playing in overtime as it is. Ok relax I do get the we need to stop this, not saying that, but shut everything down for a week or two and that's it. Talk of any more is assinine.

Approximately 7,452 die every day in the United States due to natural deaths, multiple diseases, accidents, murders, viruses, etc...….and we are going to let the Economy tank, retirement funds disappear, money for kids colleges gone, mass amounts of people potentially jobless, no paychecks, no income for some. You also run the risk of suicides, riots, looting (anybody remember the LA Riots, don't think that can't happen again) if this goes too long.

We are going to risk all this for 93 deaths since December, and yes I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, who cares. Sad but True at some point we all need to roll the dice and resume normalcy.

We can't save everyone people. Sorry.

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Old 03-17-2020, 10:11 AM
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Life expectancy is US is a hair over 78 years old. Congrats those those long livers!
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:27 PM
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for me...my purchases have always been modest (up to low or mid 4 figures) and always from my non essential discretionary funds. Having said that as the market tanks and eats into my retirement funds a bit..its natural to conserve and scale back on spending on "fun" things...esp as you near retirement age.

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Who cares? No one will say it, but I will. Does anyone realize this broke in December and the US deaths to date due to this is a whopping 93???????

All this over 93 deaths, and again most are very old people, sorry older people but if you are 80 or 90 your playing in overtime as it is. Ok relax I do get the we need to stop this, not saying that, but shut everything down for a week or two and that's it. Talk of any more is assinine.

Approximately 7,452 die every day in the United States due to natural deaths, multiple diseases, accidents, murders, viruses, etc...….and we are going to let the Economy tank, retirement funds disappear, money for kids colleges gone, mass amounts of people potentially jobless, no paychecks, income for some. You also run the risk of suicides, riots, looting, if this goes too long.

We are going to risk all this for 93 deaths since December, and yes I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, who cares. Sad but True at some point we all need to roll the dice and resume normalcy.

We can't save everyone people. Sorry.
It feels crappy to measure human life in these terms, but my wife and I were talking about this last night. For every life lost, how many thousands of lives will possibly be financially ruined forever? The only way to answer that is to know the timeline, which no one knows. There are a lot of people who will have a hard time bouncing back from a few weeks, let alone a few months. That said, all of this is an effort to not overwhelm the healthcare system.....because if that goes, the panic we're seeing now is going to seem like a tickle party by comparison.
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Old 03-27-2020, 02:24 PM
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i am not willing to sacrifice 1% of our population so assholes like you aren't bored or losing money in the market. I would say worse but telling you how i really feel about you and your statement isn't allowed here. Now i know why i hear you are the most blocked poster over here. you add nothing and are a total asshole. Time to block my first person congratulations that takes work.

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Who cares? We need to stop being afraid of what "could" happen? No one will say it, but I will. It's cold, but at some point, we have to not live in fear. And that's what is ruling right now and being stoked by the news media. Does anyone realize this broke in December and the US deaths to date due to this is a whopping 93???????

Gov Cuomo said we are at war. War with the virus, so he too Mr Early Wynn fan compared it to war. And in War you lose lives.

And all this over 93 deaths (75 million in WWII), and again most are very old people, sorry older people but if you are 80 or 90 your playing in overtime as it is. Ok relax I do get the we need to stop this, not saying that, but shut everything down for a week or two and that's it. Talk of any more is assinine.

Approximately 7,452 die every day in the United States due to natural deaths, multiple diseases, accidents, murders, viruses, etc...….and we are going to let the Economy tank, retirement funds disappear, money for kids colleges gone, mass amounts of people potentially jobless, no paychecks, no income for some. You also run the risk of suicides, riots, looting (anybody remember the LA Riots, don't think that can't happen again) if this goes too long.

We are going to risk all this for 93 deaths since December, and yes I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, who cares. Sad but True at some point we all need to roll the dice and resume normalcy.

We can't save everyone people. Sorry.
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i am not willing to sacrifice 1% of our population so assholes like you aren't bored or losing money in the market. I would say worse but telling you how i really feel about you and your statement isn't allowed here. Now i know why i hear you are the most blocked poster over here. you add nothing and are a total asshole. Time to block my first person congratulations that takes work.
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Old 03-27-2020, 02:35 PM
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Where is this most blocked list you speak of? I'd like to check that out.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:54 PM
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Where is this most blocked list you speak of? I'd like to check that out.
I would share it but I am probably on it so nobody has shared it with me.
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Old 03-27-2020, 02:36 PM
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Old 03-27-2020, 02:52 PM
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and let's not forget the U.K.'s original plan, not mine mind you, but the U.K.'s was to have everyone get the virus to then build immunity to it, and yes that would certainly cost lives.

Probably not the best idea, but........hey we all have ideas.

Those choosing to condemn mine have not once given theirs, which I find interesting.

Easy to not get criticized when your posts are just like CNN: bashing, yet not offering any ideas solutions, just putting those down who do. That's fine. It's what you do, I get it.

Played a lot a hockey back in the day, was a bit of an instigator, so quite used to getting a beating.....but gave them as well, so tread lightly.

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Old 03-27-2020, 02:53 PM
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Paul, you talk a lot about wars. Are you a veteran? I doubt it.

The Marines don't say "let's leave our wounded behind so we can be safe". They say "No Marine gets left behind". That is what we need to continue doing. Making sure that our elderly and disabled and sick don't get left behind.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:40 PM
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No, but I've seen Stripes at least 20 times.

And I get it. Nobody WANTS anyone to die, including me. Ya'll are missing the point. These deaths are inevitable. People will die from this. Accept it.

I have a female 1st cousin she is a nurse in Chicago, correction actually she volunteered as she's in the medical field, but wasn't at a hospital, but volunteered and is working in one through all this.

There needs to be a plan for the greater good. Which involves getting America back to work ASAP.

Still only getting criticism instead of suggestions/ideas. Would love to hear it.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:42 PM
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oh and back to your question about me serving. Unfortunately I could not serve, I had a stutter.

Gets you out of serving, who knew.
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i am not willing to sacrifice 1% of our population so assholes like you aren't bored or losing money in the market. I would say worse but telling you how i really feel about you and your statement isn't allowed here. Now i know why i hear you are the most blocked poster over here. you add nothing and are a total asshole. Time to block my first person congratulations that takes work.
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:43 PM
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Approximately 7,452 die every day in the United States due to natural deaths, multiple diseases, accidents, murders, viruses, etc...….and we are going to let the Economy tank, retirement funds disappear, money for kids colleges gone, mass amounts of people potentially jobless, no paychecks, no income for some. You also run the risk of suicides, riots, looting (anybody remember the LA Riots, don't think that can't happen again) if this goes too long.

Riots? Looting? I wonder who predicted all this.......oh yah me. Should have never shut the economy down. These people are going to keep doing this every day/night.......not like they have jobs to go to.
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Riots? Looting? I wonder who predicted all this.......oh yah me. Should have never shut the economy down. These people are going to keep doing this every day/night.......not like they have jobs to go to.
Are you talking about what's going on in Minnesota? That has nothing to do with covid-19!

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Are you talking about what's going on in Minnesota? That has nothing to do with covid-19!
i disagree, it not directly related but lets see all of this happen if everyone isnt wearing a mask. Also if everyone isnt at home for 2 months and no jobs for lots of them gives them a lot more time and energy to head outside into the late hours versus having jobs to go too.

Whats sad is many of the demonstrators or however you will call them and I know there are different groups within the groups have received pay checks from the government while they are looting and buying supplies to loot with government money and also many of the protestors are relying on the same police that they accuse the whole force as police brutality to now protect them from more violent people....weird to need and demand protection from the same people you are demonstrating against

also whats sad is the politics involved...people already saying 'most' people in minnesota causing the violence are from out of town and there is russian influence ....not sure what facts they have to support this.

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i disagree, it not directly related but lets see all of this happen if everyone isnt wearing a mask. Also if everyone isnt at home for 2 months and no jobs for lots of them gives them a lot more time and energy to head outside into the late hours versus having jobs to go too.
You think any of those people had jobs in the first place?
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100% related to Covid.


What I don't get:

1. Why do the police let the looters loot.......they have a free pass to continue doing it. Don't just stand around. Prevent it or arrest those doing.

2. What the hell is taking so long in charging those other 3 officers.

3. Why our President doesn't step in and do something/say something productive. One thing I've learned over the past few months is he is quite an idiot, not exactly breaking news, but even moreso once the pressure was on. At the beginning of this I was on his side, but good god, this is our President????? He's fine for the job when all is going good, and did some good things during the Covid Crisis, but he serious needs to stay off Twitter, he's not a 27 year girl pop star, seriously ignore the noise and focus on your job.

I'm still for going full blown open it up, enough with the baby steps, cause yes that is fueling these riots. Enough of being afraid of a stupid virus, yes do as much social distancing etc to prevent the spread, but NOTHING should be closed. Live at your own risk. People are sick of being bottled up and here you go....BOOM!!!!

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What I don't get:

1. Why do the police let the looters loot.......they have a free pass to continue doing it. Don't just stand around. Prevent it or arrest those doing.

2. What the hell is taking so long in charging those other 3 officers.

3. Why our President doesn't step in and do something/say something productive. One thing I've learned over the past few months is he is quite an idiot, not exactly breaking news, but even moreso once the pressure was on. At the beginning of this I was on his side, but good god, this is our President????? He's fine for the job when all is going good, and did some good things during the Covid Crisis, but he serious needs to stay off Twitter, he's not a 27 year girl pop star, seriously ignore the noise and focus on your job.

I'm still for going full blown open it up, enough with the baby steps, cause yes that is fueling these riots. Enough of being afraid of a stupid virus, yes do as much social distancing etc to prevent the spread, but NOTHING should be closed. Live at your own risk. People are sick of being bottled up and here you go....BOOM!!!!
would be really easy for Biden or a female vice president nominee to go down to one of these cities on a loudspeaker and say they are with them and will make sure will pursue reform and they do not not need to be violent etc. It would be great for the campaign and help get more votes i would think

instead he is in his basement.....

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You think any of those people had jobs in the first place?
either in school or had jobs if you look at the unemployment rate before covid
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