Anybody around the country seeing sports shows being cancelled because of Corona

[irv]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Ten's of thousands of people die each year of the flu and I don't think anything like shows etc have been cancelled. I know a few schools close at times because of the flu but that is all. I really don't understand the current situation and panic with this virus. Now if a few million cases were reported in the USA that would be news and still that would be less than 1% and about 80% of these cases have few symptoms , according to the expert doctors.

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by irv

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Canada now has over 100 cases of Coronavirus. Your government is allocating over 1 billion dollars to respond. Is the media in Canada also corrupt and biased? I think you are biased, not the media.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by irv

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

A couple reasons:

1. This virus is, as it stands, both marginally more contagious and has a marginally higher mortality rate than the common flu. Having one of these two attributes of a virus strain keep the virus "marginally" more dangerous. Have both makes it "exponentially" more dangerous. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

2. The virus is "novel" or new, meaning it's exposure to a human population at large is also new. This heightens the chance the virus mutates into an even more dangerous strain. The Spanish Flu outbreak during WW1 was actually broken into two waves - a first wave where the strain featured characteristics similar to the common flu (mortality rates clustered within the eldery, extremely young, and at risk). In the second, the virus then mutated into a strain that was almost equally as devastating to healthy young adults who previously the least at risk group. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

3. The "regular" flu is already firmly entrenched into our population. There is hardly a section of the globe that doesn't have a "flu season" now. The farther this strain expands and the larger the population that is infected the greater the risk this strain enters the rotation and reappears. This is especially dangerous because of number one. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

In itself covid-19 is lower on the list of dangerous viruses, there are plenty of things much much worse, but the reasons listed above and others give cause to isolate and "kill" this virus while it is still novel. Sports organizations, Universities, and in some cases entire regions are shutting down not because of something they read on facebook or watched on the news. They are taking extreme measures because top health organizations are recommending they do so.

Am I personally fearful of the virus? Not really. The only fear I have at the moment is the economic impact the virus will almost certainly soon have on my business. In looking at the greater picture though, we are at the cusp of measures most of us haven't seen in our lifetime so I believe the major health organizations feel the need to contain it quickly is warranted. How the media factors into this I'm not sure other than yeah, some of the most extreme medical efforts we have seen in some time are being thrown at this virus so I would expect them to report on it extensively.

[irv]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Canada now has over 100 cases of Coronavirus. Your government is allocating over 1 billion dollars to respond. Is the media in Canada also corrupt and biased? I think you are biased, not the media.

Our leader up here is a moron and is destroying this country. He is doing this/pandering for votes, nothing more, trust me.

Of course the media up here is biased. The Toronto Star, CTV News, CP24news, the CBC, the list goes on and on.

If anyone doesn't think this covo 19 hysteria isn't political motivated to some extent, then they have their blinders on.

Remember HiN1, swine flu, SARS, Avian Flu, Mers, Ebola and a whole host of other ones.
Fear mongering at its best.
When's the last time you have heard about Wuhan China?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20Y03W
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876

Doctors: 98% of coronavirus patients survive, but many others could have contracted it and not known
https://www.boston25news.com/news/do...DQSQDPOYMMIU4/

[Snapolit1]

I will avoid lapsing into politics. Have messed that up a few times. Will avoid another transgression.

I don't see the point of saying "look how stupid people are." The reality of the situation is irrelevant. Not that any of us or the experts know the reality of the situation. The perception of the situation among the mass number of people is pretty bleak. Pointing out how irrational and silly you think people are is a waste of time. What's important is the perception. And that is very bleak at the moment. No one wants to get on train or planes. Have eaten out recently in some very empty restaurants. People on mass transport looking very afraid. Strange times.

Fear is a very primitive lizard brain emotion. Not really a rational one. You can explain how safe flying is and if someone doesn't want to fly you are banging your head against the wall. Ditto disease.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I will avoid lapsing into politics. Have messed that up a few times. Will avoid another transgression.

I don't see the point of saying "look how stupid people are." The reality of the situation is irrelevant. Not that any of us or the experts know the reality of the situation. The perception of the situation among the mass number of people is pretty bleak. Pointing out how irrational and silly you think people are is a waste of time. What's important is the perception. And that is very bleak at the moment. No one wants to get on train or planes. Have eaten out recently in some very empty restaurants. People on mass transport looking very afraid. Strange times.

Fear is a very primitive lizard brain emotion. Not really a rational one. You can explain how safe flying is and if someone doesn't want to fly you are banging your head against the wall. Ditto disease.

Maybe a bad choice for a meme but if you could see what is going on up here, you too would just shake your head.
Massive panic driven idiocy when Costco and other grocery stores open up all rushing/running towards the stacks of toilet paper, water and hand sanitizer.
This flu does not cause diarrhea nor has anyone anywhere said our city water is going to be turned off. It's absolutely ridiculous, but again, it shows the power the media has over the people.

The vast majority recover from this, just like the seasonal flu, and those who do pass are the same ones, health/age wise, who would also pass if they caught the flu but we are all acting like a bunch of fear driven sheep because that is what the media is telling us to do.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by irv

Maybe a bad choice for a meme but if you could see what is going on up here, you too would just shake your head.
Massive panic driven idiocy when Costco and other grocery stores open up all rushing/running towards the stacks of toilet paper, water and hand sanitizer.
This flu does not cause diarrhea nor has anyone anywhere said our city water is going to be turned off. It's absolutely ridiculous but again, it shows the power the media has over the people.

The vast majority recover from this, just like the seasonal flu, and those who do pass are the same ones, health/age wise, who would also pass if they caught it but we are all acting like a bunch of fear driven sheep because that is what the media is telling us to do.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

I don't think the media creates people's fear. I think once people feel personally at risk or fear for their family and loved ones, they go off the rails. Many horrible things have happened through human history in response to irrational fear. See Nazi Germany, lynching of innocent people, and many other terrible things. I'm not worried about my kids in college. But my 82 year old mother would be waylaid very easily and prob gone in days if she came into contact with this. That's what I'm seeing.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I don't think the media creates people's fear. I think once people feel personally at risk or fear for their family and loved ones, they go off the rails. Many horrible things have happened through human history in response to irrational fear. See Nazi Germany, lynching of innocent people, and many other terrible things. I'm not worried about my kids in college. But my 82 year old mother would be waylaid very easily and prob gone in days if she came into contact with this. That's what I'm seeing.

I disagree. Many "real" sources of information are out there but like most of us, we just continue to watch the news and read newspapers and trust/believe what they spew as being a 100% truthful, factual and telling the whole complete story.
Fear sells and they know this or else we'd be hearing how the cases in China are waning and how many have actually recovered/survived this instead of just those that have died.

I also have an 80 yr old father but he also knows, just like every winter/flu season, he needs to be careful/extra cautious.
http://voyapal.com/wp-content/upload...oronaVirus.pdf