Small Traditions LLC/SCANDAL UPDATE

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by BigBeerGut

PSA is NOT in on the scam you sound silly. What would be in it for them?

Same reason a casino does not need to fix there games it is already fixed why risk anything?

mJD

I like Mike, but you are out of your skull if you can't see the scam that PSA has perpetuated on all of us. A Billion Dollar fraud my friend and you can quote me.

If you want to see the problem, look in the mirror, then do something about it like STOP feeding the effing scammers. That's all it takes to stop this is for morons to stop supporting it already. People are inherently stupid, especially baseball card collectors like us. We need to stop with all the "popping" and acting like a 3 year old child on Christmas morning. It's an ugly look, really.

Instead, collectors feed the scam by continuing to support them. Where in the hell do you see grown men get their heads handed to them and enjoy the financial butt plugging?

PSA management doesn't even want to address it with their customers. In what world are we living in where a company can bilk their customers in a billion dollar scam and other blithering idiots keep supporting them?...AND THEY DON'T address it? I am and have been dumbfounded on how people are letting it happen in all honesty.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I like Mike, but you are out of your skull if you can't see the scam that PSA has perpetuated on all of us. A Billion Dollar fraud my friend and you can quote me.

If you want to see the problem, look in the mirror, then do something about it like STOP feeding the effing scammers. That's all it takes to stop this is for morons to stop supporting it already. People are inherently stupid, especially baseball card collectors like us. We need to stop with all the "popping" and acting like a 3 year old child on Christmas morning. It's an ugly look, really.

Instead, collectors feed the scam by continuing to support them. Where in the hell do you see grown men get their heads handed to them and enjoy the financial butt plugging?

PSA management doesn't even want to address it with their customers. In what world are we living in where a company can bilk their customers in a billion dollar scam and other blithering idiots keep supporting them?...AND THEY DON'T address it? I am and have been dumbfounded on how people are letting it happen in all honesty.

Maybe YOU yourself should find a new hobby. Since this one brings you such misery. My girlfriend likes glittering cups. That would be a good one for you.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Maybe YOU yourself should find a new hobby. Since this one brings you such misery. My girlfriend likes glittering cups. That would be a good one for you.

Then he'd have no audience

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Maybe YOU yourself should find a new hobby. Since this one brings you such misery. My girlfriend likes glittering cups. That would be a good one for you.

says the guy who has announced a dozen times that he’s leaving the hobby

[perezfan]

You can still love the hobby, the cards and memorabilia that make it great.

But you can also hate what they’re doing to it. And is it better to be quietly cheated and defrauded? Or to be vocal, stop submitting, and take other actions that will negatively impact these criminals and corrupt entities that perpetuate this massive scam.

[Leon]

The answer is always money. I wasn't a submitter (maybe a few a year) to TPG's anyway. Good luck to those that do.

Originally Posted by perezfan

You can still love the hobby, the cards and memorabilia that make it great.

But you can also hate what they’re doing to it. And is it better to be quietly cheated and defrauded? Or to be vocal, stop submitting, and take other actions that will negatively impact these criminals and corrupt entities that perpetuate this massive scam.

[steve B]

I'd be the one asking when the card flipping contest was and which type it would be.

And probably get fired for skimming a trimmed card across the cube farm

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Maybe YOU yourself should find a new hobby. Since this one brings you such misery. My girlfriend likes glittering cups. That would be a good one for you.

lets just keep doing what you're doing Bobby by being that 3 year old kid at Christmas waiting for the pop. I'll consider collecting glittering cups now cause you have me on a tangent and you just keep being a doorknob and waiting for pops. Contributing to the billion dollar fraud.

X 15 guys (Minimum) for 15 years minimum. Add it up. That just from one imbecile. This guy Brent Mastro.

Here's how it'd done Bobby so (WATCH THIS)

https://youtu.be/8e1lwt7E29k


STOP WITH THE POP DOPEY

[LarsenMN]

I skip right over the slabbed cards. I find I get the best deals by purchasing raw cards. If it has some slightly rounded corners, I know it has not been altered. Plus they are about 5x less for the exact same card minus a crappy slab and "opinionated" grade. Penny sleeves and top loaders are plenty of protection for my ex-ex+ vintage collection.

[LarsenMN]

Also if I find a card has been trimmed, I can contact the buyer and 90% of the time I get refunded. Or I am out a measly $10 or $15.

[Republicaninmass]

People may not be consigning, it is probably his trimmed collection. I had to laugh when I recieved the email about the auction. The audacity of this guy is beyond belief. Faking provenance is about 6 feet below a snakes belly.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

People may not be consigning, it is probably his trimmed collection. I had to laugh when I recieved the email about the auction. The audacity of this guy is beyond belief. Faking provenance is about 6 feet below a snakes belly.

I think he still had some consignments in the pipeline from last year which are in the current auction. When lots get hammered in his auction to sell for much more a month or two later, should make consignors running for a new company to consign with.

One example of a card I follow is this card. Sold for 1955.00 in Small Traditions and then it pops up in PWCC and sells for over 3k

https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=45306

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Little...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[mybestbretts]

I first want to say I am not a dealer, I am a collector. I have bought many
times from Small Traditions auctions as well as other auctions and have had many cards graded by PSA.
I happen to have a number of postcards that have been graded by PSA and
of course, I could never get a 10, only the dealers it seemed to me. Recently
Traditions had a 74/75, not sure which PSA 10 George Brett postcard up
for sale, which took my 9 down in value, and in fact maybe 2. Now I read
that they might have been trimmed. This is so funny because you won't
believe how many cards I have received back from PSA with "evidence of
trimming" when I bought them in the pack and never from a dealer so
I knew they weren't trimmed. I recently battled with them over a Jetter
they said was trimmed, which I had broken out of the pack years back.
They finally slabbed it and graded it "authentic". I heard later that that
whole group of cards might have all been smaller then PSA standards,
but Small Traditions had a PSA 10.