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Old 01-03-2020, 04:22 AM
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The Musial could be a reholder of an old grade. I will agree with you this type of thing is very frustrating though.


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Old 01-03-2020, 04:51 AM
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The Musial could be a reholder of an old grade. I will agree with you this type of thing is very frustrating though.
Nope; graded recently based on Cert number.
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:25 AM
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Based on the scans - I would put the Robinson at a 5 - all day - every day

Go Figure - and yet the PSA opinion is still worth 20 bucks a pop?
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:05 AM
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I would think that they deducted for the erasure mark to the right of Robinson's head, paper loss on left boarder in two spots, and creased in the upper right corner from the edge being dinged up. The back is toned and has some boarder issues.

I do think the grade on the Musial is a bit to high considering the condition.
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I would think that they deducted for the erasure mark to the right of Robinson's head, paper loss on left boarder in two spots, and creased in the upper right corner from the edge being dinged up. The back is toned and has some boarder issues.

I do think the grade on the Musial is a bit to high considering the condition.
The white spot to the right of his head is glare from the pic. After another look, I uncovered a bigger upper right corner peeling issue that I never noticed at first (or second) look. Upper right per the photo/looking horizontally, that is. I don't think it's really visible in the pics, nor is the light crease down part of the back.

Uncovering all of these visible only at the right light/tilt/angle imperfections (while squinting my bifocal eyes through the slab) is aging me even more. I miss simply looking at raw cards 25-30 years ago in high school and just being in the ballpark with something's condition. Anyway...

As mentioned above, you knew they had their reasons for not giving it the mid-level grade that it appeared at first glance. And being as rough on it as possible could get you down to a 2 by the time you're done breaking it down. But if you did the same to the Musial, 3.5 seems like a dream, so I still don't agree at all with it being 1.5 higher

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Despite that this card looks like it should grade higher, how does a card with such a huge pinhole get a "4"??
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Maybe the Slab came from Mexico or the grader just looked at the centering and the corners which would have made it NM. Plus, who did the submission as Im sure that had no bearing.
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