Grading head scratchers

[T205 GB]

I would think that they deducted for the erasure mark to the right of Robinson's head, paper loss on left boarder in two spots, and creased in the upper right corner from the edge being dinged up. The back is toned and has some boarder issues.

I do think the grade on the Musial is a bit to high considering the condition.

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

I would think that they deducted for the erasure mark to the right of Robinson's head, paper loss on left boarder in two spots, and creased in the upper right corner from the edge being dinged up. The back is toned and has some boarder issues.

I do think the grade on the Musial is a bit to high considering the condition.

The white spot to the right of his head is glare from the pic. After another look, I uncovered a bigger upper right corner peeling issue that I never noticed at first (or second) look. Upper right per the photo/looking horizontally, that is. I don't think it's really visible in the pics, nor is the light crease down part of the back.

Uncovering all of these visible only at the right light/tilt/angle imperfections (while squinting my bifocal eyes through the slab) is aging me even more. I miss simply looking at raw cards 25-30 years ago in high school and just being in the ballpark with something's condition. Anyway...

As mentioned above, you knew they had their reasons for not giving it the mid-level grade that it appeared at first glance. And being as rough on it as possible could get you down to a 2 by the time you're done breaking it down. But if you did the same to the Musial, 3.5 seems like a dream, so I still don't agree at all with it being 1.5 higher

[h2oya311]

Despite that this card looks like it should grade higher, how does a card with such a huge pinhole get a "4"??

[BeanTown]

Maybe the Slab came from Mexico or the grader just looked at the centering and the corners which would have made it NM. Plus, who did the submission as Im sure that had no bearing.

[glynparson]

Not a pin hole the reverse image shows no hole I think it’s some sort of dot on the card. Look up the image PSA has one on the site. But I know it’s more fun to boil up all these internet conspiracy theories. And some wonder why more don’t take the true crimes seriously because fools hurl rocks at things that aren’t even deserved. Plenty of legit stuff to complain about to go around fabricating or exaggerating things.

[Bridwell]

PSA is really tough on any sort of glue residue. I've seen Ex-Mt card get graded as a PSA 2. They are also tough on minor wrinkles that are hard to see in scans.

You might try cracking them out of the holders and re-submitting. I've had some luck with that on cards that seemed badly under graded. It could just be a mistake.

[JollyElm]

Print defect(s)???

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A couple of tiny white specks in the blue? A tiny bit of black 'overrun' ink to the left of "Valuable"?? There is no way this card should be a PD.

I've contacted PSA repeatedly about having the PD designation examined and (hopefully) removed (steps to take, etc.) and they NEVER respond with any info. The person I contacted readily helped me resolve other issues (a fraudulent use of photoshop by someone in the registry to make a mislabeled card appear to actually be the card the label indicated, and correctly changing the label of a card I submitted through Bobby's bulk submission to what it should have been in the first place), so their silence is pretty irritating.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by Bridwell

PSA is really tough on any sort of glue residue. I've seen Ex-Mt card get graded as a PSA 2. They are also tough on minor wrinkles that are hard to see in scans.

You might try cracking them out of the holders and re-submitting. I've had some luck with that on cards that seemed badly under graded. It could just be a mistake.

That's what I hate about TPG, it cost money to grade and I am not made of money and don't have the money to play the game and submit things multiple times

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Not a pin hole the reverse image shows no hole I think it’s some sort of dot on the card. Look up the image PSA has one on the site. But I know it’s more fun to boil up all these internet conspiracy theories. And some wonder why more don’t take the true crimes seriously because fools hurl rocks at things that aren’t even deserved. Plenty of legit stuff to complain about to go around fabricating or exaggerating things.

Wow! That is an excellent resource. I've never used the PSA certification verification page. Wish the auction site that is selling this card had shared a back scan (or at least pointed out that the big black hole looking spot in the exact spot that a pinhole would exist is not actually a pinhole). I have never EVER seen a black spot in that location that is not a pinhole. Thanks for quelling my fears that this had somehow slipped past a PSA grader! Okay, that "4" is rock solid then!