Ebay seller returned cracked out slab

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Biff,
It is quite similar. Maybe the buyer could've returned the card and added $20 for the cost of the cracked holder. Would that be fair?

George, you can add all the if's and but's you want, plain and simple the buyer altered the item and should not get a refund. Go to Walmart or where ever you shop and buy a coat. Then cut off the sleeves and try and return it. How is that different?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by bnorth

George, you can add all the if's and but's you want, plain and simple the buyer altered the item and should not get a refund. Go to Walmart or where ever you shop and buy a coat. Then cut off the sleeves and try and return it. How is that different?

Milton, the product was the Gehrig card and I am assuming it was returned undamaged.

Suppose the buyer had removed the card for inspection in such a way that the holder was undamaged. He discovers the card is doctored. Would it be OK for him to put the now known doctored card back into the original GAI 7 holder and return to the seller in the identical condition it was received?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Milton, the product was the Gehrig card and I am assuming it was returned undamaged.

Suppose the buyer had removed the card for inspection in such a way that the holder was undamaged. He discovers the card is doctored. Would it be OK for him to put the now known doctored card back into the original GAI 7 holder and return to the seller in the identical condition it was received?

Simon(not sure why you started this but it is fun), the product was a Gehrig card in a GAI slab.

Have a great day everyone.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Simon(not sure why you started this but it is fun), the product was a Gehrig card in a GAI slab.

Have a great day everyone.

So.....Suppose the buyer had removed the card for inspection in such a way that the holder was undamaged. He discovers the card is doctored. Would it be OK for him to put the now known doctored card back into the original GAI 7 holder and return to the seller in the identical condition it was received?

[ullmandds]

To me... Any analogy presented here using an item that was unpackaged... Because the item inside is intended to be used...like a watch...is a poor analogy. It’s more like if someone were to purchase a valuable autograph that came with a certificate of authenticity and then return the autograph but not the certificate of authenticity.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

To me... Any analogy presented here using an item that was unpackaged... Because the item inside is intended to be used...like a watch...is a poor analogy. It’s more like if someone were to purchase a valuable autograph that came with a certificate of authenticity and then return the autograph but not the certificate of authenticity.

If I bought a $5,000 card in a holder from a dubious, defunct TPG service, I would want to authenticate the card that I just paid $5k for.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Mark17

If I bought a $5,000 card in a holder from a dubious, defunct TPG service, I would want to authenticate the card that I just paid $5k for.

That really depends to be honest with you if it were a T215 pirate in a defunct GAI holder the new owner may have no interest in re-holding it as the value will remain the same either way? If it were an incredibly rare card that really did not matter value wise because it was so rare it would not matter and the new buyer may not want to re-holder the card.

In this case it is obvious the buyer was hoping to win a little lottery.

To me these are very different instances.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by bnorth

George, you can add all the if's and but's you want, plain and simple the buyer altered the item and should not get a refund. Go to Walmart or where ever you shop and buy a coat. Then cut off the sleeves and try and return it. How is that different?

Excellent Point....