Analysis of PWCC Vintage Auction 10/13/19

ullmandds · #1 10-18-2019, 09:02 AM

While I am not nearly as old as you are Frank I feel the same!!! If this sale is legitimate it is definitely a testament to the craziness of the modern card market! And apparently these companies creating these rarities...albeit artificially apparently know what they are doing and are striking a cord with some very rich folks.

While Jeter was a great ballplayer he will rank nowhere near the all-time greats just like a lot of these other insane rookie refractor cards selling for five and six figures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd

If you were a company going public in need of $50,000,000, would you sell

A) 10,000,000 shares of stock for $5 a share in an IPO or

B) would you short print 25 pristine stock certificates in plastic cases impregnated with Joe Orlando�s saliva and verified by Spence and sell them for $2,000,000 each?

The players (in the market and in the Vault) may be the same, but how a short-printed modern, shiny piece of in cardboard is analogous to equity in a potentially very profitable start-up or in a Fortune 500 company for that matter eludes me,

but then again I will never be vault-worthy and my lack of understanding doesn�t bother me one iota.

MVSNYC · #2 10-18-2019, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds

While I am not nearly as old as you are Frank I feel the same!!! If this sale is legitimate it is definitely a testament to the craziness of the modern card market! And apparently these companies creating these rarities...albeit artificially apparently know what they are doing and are striking a cord with some very rich folks.

While Jeter was a great ballplayer he will rank nowhere near the all-time greats just like a lot of these other insane rookie refractor cards selling for five and six figures.

Pete- I'm not trying to justify (nor do I fully understand) that $200k sale price on that (obscure) card. But, to specifically address your comment above, people often forget Jeter is #6 on the all-time hits list (ahead of Wagner, Yaz, Mays, Lajoie, Ripken, etc). That seems to be forgotten...and the 5 rings certainly add to his legend. If there's 4 or 5 heads on the Yankee's Mt. Rushmore, he's on it.

perezfan · #3 10-18-2019, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Pete- I'm not trying to justify (nor do I fully understand) that $200k sale price on that (obscure) card. But, to specifically address your comment above, people often forget Jeter is #6 on the all-time hits list (ahead of Wagner, Yaz, Mays, Lajoie, Ripken, etc). That seems to be forgotten...and the 5 rings certainly add to his legend. If there's 4 or 5 heads on the Yankee's Mt. Rushmore, he's on it.

I think that's about right...

Ahead of him would be Babe, Lou, Mickey and Joe. Not sure if Jeter would be just ahead of Yogi or behind him. Perhaps I'm drawing a blank but can't think of anyone else that would push Jeter beyond #6 on a list of all-time Yankee greats. The only pitcher that comes to mind is Whitey, but he probably goes in behind Jeter.... right?

Peter_Spaeth · #4 10-18-2019, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perezfan

I think that's about right...

Ahead of him would be Babe, Lou, Mickey and Joe. Not sure if Jeter would be just ahead of Yogi or behind him. Perhaps I'm drawing a blank but can't think of anyone else that would push Jeter beyond #6 on a list of all-time Yankee greats. The only pitcher that comes to mind is Whitey, but he probably goes in behind Jeter.... right?

I would rate Berra higher. It's hard to argue he isn't one of the top 3 catchers of all time. Jeter doesn't rank anywhere near that high as a shortstop. Then again, Jeter's iconic status derives from much more than his baseball talent and stats.

MVSNYC · #5 10-18-2019, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perezfan

I think that's about right...

Ahead of him would be Babe, Lou, Mickey and Joe. Not sure if Jeter would be just ahead of Yogi or behind him. Perhaps I'm drawing a blank but can't think of anyone else that would push Jeter beyond #6 on a list of all-time Yankee greats. The only pitcher that comes to mind is Whitey, but he probably goes in behind Jeter.... right?

This is just my opinion...

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Joe D, Jeter (6 thru 8: Mariano, Yogi, Whitey)

Rhotchkiss · #6 10-18-2019, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

This is just my opinion...

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Joe D, Jeter (6 thru 8: Mariano, Yogi, Whitey)

Reggie Jackson?

davidan · #7 10-18-2019, 04:38 PM

I recently bid on (and won) a VG-EX 4 '51 Bowman Mantle in the PWCC Auction at $7400. I could have bought 27 of them for the same price the person who won the 1990's Jeter Rookie paid

And dang, I had a hard time pulling the trigger on the Mantle at my price

I like my card better.

frankbmd · #8 10-18-2019, 04:52 PM

The Contours knew when they sang

�First I Look At The Purse�

Fuddjcal · #9 10-19-2019, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidan

I recently bid on (and won) a VG-EX 4 '51 Bowman Mantle in the PWCC Auction at $7400. I could have bought 27 of them for the same price the person who won the 1990's Jeter Rookie paid

And dang, I had a hard time pulling the trigger on the Mantle at my price

I like my card better.

not too shabby for a trimmed short PSA version.

samosa4u · #10 10-19-2019, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidan

I recently bid on (and won) a VG-EX 4 '51 Bowman Mantle in the PWCC Auction at $7400. I could have bought 27 of them for the same price the person who won the 1990's Jeter Rookie paid

And dang, I had a hard time pulling the trigger on the Mantle at my price

I like my card better.

I actually saw that card and I thought it was over-graded. It has 10/90 TB centering and the corners are too rounded to deserve a PSA 4, in my opinion.

I would be too scared to spend $7400 US with PWCC after everything that's happened, but that's just me. If you're happy spending that kind of money on his cards, despite everything BODA has been doing, then that's fine. It's your money.

MVSNYC · #11 10-18-2019, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Reggie Jackson?

Hi Ryan-

Reggie was great, but I wouldn�t put him ahead of anyone I listed above. Maybe if he played more than 5 seasons in pinstripes.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #12 10-18-2019, 06:49 PM

Have a hard time paying more for a handbag than I would have to pay for a prize steer...

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
E95 Plank--PWCC auction	Brian	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	65	07-18-2017 07:10 PM
Recent PWCC Auction	Snapolit1	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	2	09-08-2016 01:50 PM
PWCC Auction Yet Again	Yoda	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	101	07-20-2016 12:02 PM
PWCC Auction	Yoda	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	98	02-13-2016 06:12 PM
An Analysis of the Yorktown Heights T 206 PSA 8 E-Bay Auction	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	165	09-20-2006 11:47 AM