Analysis of PWCC Vintage Auction 10/13/19

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Pete- I'm not trying to justify (nor do I fully understand) that $200k sale price on that (obscure) card. But, to specifically address your comment above, people often forget Jeter is #6 on the all-time hits list (ahead of Wagner, Yaz, Mays, Lajoie, Ripken, etc). That seems to be forgotten...and the 5 rings certainly add to his legend. If there's 4 or 5 heads on the Yankee's Mt. Rushmore, he's on it.

I think that's about right...

Ahead of him would be Babe, Lou, Mickey and Joe. Not sure if Jeter would be just ahead of Yogi or behind him. Perhaps I'm drawing a blank but can't think of anyone else that would push Jeter beyond #6 on a list of all-time Yankee greats. The only pitcher that comes to mind is Whitey, but he probably goes in behind Jeter.... right?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I think that's about right...

Ahead of him would be Babe, Lou, Mickey and Joe. Not sure if Jeter would be just ahead of Yogi or behind him. Perhaps I'm drawing a blank but can't think of anyone else that would push Jeter beyond #6 on a list of all-time Yankee greats. The only pitcher that comes to mind is Whitey, but he probably goes in behind Jeter.... right?

I would rate Berra higher. It's hard to argue he isn't one of the top 3 catchers of all time. Jeter doesn't rank anywhere near that high as a shortstop. Then again, Jeter's iconic status derives from much more than his baseball talent and stats.

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I think that's about right...

Ahead of him would be Babe, Lou, Mickey and Joe. Not sure if Jeter would be just ahead of Yogi or behind him. Perhaps I'm drawing a blank but can't think of anyone else that would push Jeter beyond #6 on a list of all-time Yankee greats. The only pitcher that comes to mind is Whitey, but he probably goes in behind Jeter.... right?

This is just my opinion...

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Joe D, Jeter (6 thru 8: Mariano, Yogi, Whitey)

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

This is just my opinion...

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Joe D, Jeter (6 thru 8: Mariano, Yogi, Whitey)

Reggie Jackson?

[davidan]

I recently bid on (and won) a VG-EX 4 '51 Bowman Mantle in the PWCC Auction at $7400. I could have bought 27 of them for the same price the person who won the 1990's Jeter Rookie paid And dang, I had a hard time pulling the trigger on the Mantle at my price I like my card better.

[frankbmd]

The Contours knew when they sang

“First I Look At The Purse”

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by davidan

I recently bid on (and won) a VG-EX 4 '51 Bowman Mantle in the PWCC Auction at $7400. I could have bought 27 of them for the same price the person who won the 1990's Jeter Rookie paid And dang, I had a hard time pulling the trigger on the Mantle at my price I like my card better.

not too shabby for a trimmed short PSA version.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by davidan

I recently bid on (and won) a VG-EX 4 '51 Bowman Mantle in the PWCC Auction at $7400. I could have bought 27 of them for the same price the person who won the 1990's Jeter Rookie paid And dang, I had a hard time pulling the trigger on the Mantle at my price I like my card better.

I actually saw that card and I thought it was over-graded. It has 10/90 TB centering and the corners are too rounded to deserve a PSA 4, in my opinion.

I would be too scared to spend $7400 US with PWCC after everything that's happened, but that's just me. If you're happy spending that kind of money on his cards, despite everything BODA has been doing, then that's fine. It's your money.

[pokerplyr80]

Congrats on the 51 Mantle pick up. The grade looks accurate to me and I highly doubt that card is trimmed. I still remember the day mine first arrived. It will look even better in hand.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I actually saw that card and I thought it was over-graded. It has 10/90 TB centering and the corners are too rounded to deserve a PSA 4, in my opinion.

I would be too scared to spend $7400 US with PWCC after everything that's happened, but that's just me. If you're happy spending that kind of money on his cards, despite everything BODA has been doing, then that's fine. It's your money.

Man, I second that! The PWCC Mantle looks short both ways, and given PWCC's history, I would NEVER plop down that kind of cash on any of their cards. I know these cards varied a tiny bit in size, but the significant air space within the slab combined with the shady seller's practices would give me significant pause (to put it mildly).

I would start researching this card right away, to try to find some history on it. Do it before it's too late for a return. Scary stuff!

[Peter_Spaeth]

I don't love the Mantle. This one, I think, is noticeably bigger. Hopefully it's just natural variance.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Man, I second that! The PWCC Mantle looks short both ways, and given PWCC's history, I would NEVER plop down that kind of cash on any of their cards. I know these cards varied a tiny bit in size, but the significant air space within the slab combined with the shady seller's practices would give me significant pause (to put it mildly).

I would start researching this card right away, to try to find some history on it. Do it before it's too late for a return. Scary stuff!

The time to do the diligence is before buying. That said in this case it appears the card sold in the most recent REA and a couple of years ago on ebay.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I actually saw that card and I thought it was over-graded. It has 10/90 TB centering and the corners are too rounded to deserve a PSA 4, in my opinion.

I would be too scared to spend $7400 US with PWCC after everything that's happened, but that's just me. If you're happy spending that kind of money on his cards, despite everything BODA has been doing, then that's fine. It's your money.

Gotta say I am not a fan of the right border.

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Reggie Jackson?

Hi Ryan-

Reggie was great, but I wouldn’t put him ahead of anyone I listed above. Maybe if he played more than 5 seasons in pinstripes.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Have a hard time paying more for a handbag than I would have to pay for a prize steer...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Hall of Stats which I think is a great site has Reggie at 145 and Derek at 128.

They rank Derek #7 as a Yankee, judging players just by their years on the Yankees.

http://www.hallofstats.com/franchise/nyy#jeterde01