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Old 10-11-2019, 10:08 AM
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In my opinion the majority of altered cards are never going to be outed because they were purchased raw. Whether enough are going to be outed anyhow that destroy confidence in TPG high grade slabs altogether, we'll see.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:57 AM
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Was Mastro still operating biz as usual while under investigation, and if so, how long did that go on until Mastro closed up?

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Old 10-11-2019, 11:38 AM
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Whether enough are going to be outed anyhow that destroy confidence in TPG high grade slabs altogether, we'll see.
This to me is the 64 thousand dollar question. And it is very unclear to me that anything short of a new TPG that uses as part of its business model the outing of high grade slabbed cards in order to attract market share, confidence in the PSA slab will ever be impacted enough to provide the needed financial incentive to induce the type of litigation that could threaten PSA.
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:48 PM
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Anyone who is thinking about investing in high grade PSA cards needs to look at Peter's post (#274). From $60 to $4,000. should make people question what is going on.
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:43 PM
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$60,000 value gain on an altered PSA 8 Bobby Hull rookie just surfaced on Blowout.
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:44 PM
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$60,000 value gain on an altered PSA 8 Bobby Hull rookie just surfaced on Blowout.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=1778

A mere 60K gain.
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Wow!!!
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:14 PM
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How Can Newport Beach Miss the Snow recoloring on this Hull? Can someone please explain this??

I know longer buy they are this bad at detecting alterations....

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What a disgrace. I'm not familiar with 1958 Topps Hockey cards, but I do know that many of the later '60's Topps Baseball cards had a dot matrix print pattern that would make it easy to detect recoloring under magnification. Putting $18,000 at risk to modify a card reveals a lot about PSA's gross lack of competence and the card doctor's brazen confidence (likely based on years of experience and lucrative returns on investment) to attempt to get a grade bump like this.
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Agree...

Gross incompetence by PSA. A simple magnifying glass would reveal the very significant recoloring of that card. Within the thread on BO, they blew up that section, and it was beyond obvious that red ink was added to the jersey. Major tampering, and a true disgrace. Hope the buyer gets word of this.
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