Proof that the market value for PSA and 'conserved' cards have dropped

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Well, I've notified about 30 owners of altered cards from the PSA set registry and only about 5 have responded saying they're going to have them returned. So those people, if they leave the cards in their set, are saying they had no problem paying PSA 8-10 prices for an Altered card.

John...

This is very disturbing. Can you please clarify your statement?

Of the 30 Registry people you contacted, did only 5 respond back, period? Or did 5 people respond back that they were returning the altered cards, and 25 responded back that they did not care about the alterations?

There is a big difference. If the other 25 people responded back that they were keeping the cards, that's a big problem for the hobby. Those tainted cards will remain in circulation, and God only knows where they'll end up 20 years from now.

But if it was just silence (or a non-response) from the other 25, perhaps they are still mulling it over and deciding what to do. Some may eventually seek recourse after stewing for a while. Eager to hear what the specific responses were, and what percentage was silent vs. dead set on keeping their altered cards.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Of the 30 Registry people you contacted, did only 5 respond back, period? Or did 5 people respond back that they were returning the altered cards, and 25 responded back that they did not care about the alterations?

The others were radio silence; some may have passed away or don't have current emails linked to their PSA accounts. But I'm not sure who would respond with "Thanks for your information about altered cards in my sets. I think I'll just let them be."

I am a huge proponent of PSA removing all the known altered cert numbers so people are forced into returning them, but obviously, PSA doesn't think this is in their best interests at this time.

[perezfan]

Thanks for clarifying, John...

That's a bit of a relief, I suppose. Cannot imagine that all 25 of those people would actually be content with the situation.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

The others were radio silence; some may have passed away or don't have current emails linked to their PSA accounts. But I'm not sure who would respond with "Thanks for your information about altered cards in my sets. I think I'll just let them be."

I am a huge proponent of PSA removing all the known altered cert numbers so people are forced into returning them, but obviously, PSA doesn't think this is in their best interests at this time.

Yes. If PSA removed the serial numbers, that would be an excellent event.

The other big event would be if eBay banned PWCC.

Though it's also an excellent event if Registry people are returning those cards. That's a statement. The Registry is sacred cow of PSAdom.