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Old 09-20-2019, 01:36 PM
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The card looks awesome in an SGC holder! It's an awesome one of a kind HOF overprint (upside-down) T206 error and it's in an auction (Wheatland Auctions) that ends soon! I hope it finds a good home - https://www.wheatlandauctionservices...entoryid=13500
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:57 PM
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Too bad they didn't put "upside down overprint" (or such) on flip. Did you request they do that? Would be much better, if they could.
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:25 PM
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i think the 1.5 grade more than makes up for not having a description of the overprint
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:27 AM
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Did not ask for added description but they authenticate that the card and overprint are authentic, which wasn't a concern since they were in an attic for decades.
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:36 PM
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i think the 1.5 grade more than makes up for not having a description of the overprint
I respectfully disagree.

In the world of freaks/errors. Having the variation noted on the flip has always been very important to the people collecting them (ask Johhny V, Jamie, Wonka [wherever he may be], Scott & Hank, etc)...and the "AUTH" designation usually has gone hand in hand with that, and more desirable, as it typically denotes a true "scrap" that wasn't put into packs. (Where's Johnny V?, he can wax poetry about all this).

I can't speak to whether or not SGC has stopped doing that, but I can tell you that I was the first person to get them to start doing it around 10 years ago. I had a discussion with Dave Foreman and others at SGC at a show; I had several printing errors with me (missing color, upside down back, multi-strike, etc). They told me they had never added those descriptors before, but they thought it was fine to start doing it, thus mine were the very first ones they did it with.

(Incidentally, I like this card a lot...no issue there).

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Old 09-25-2019, 11:20 AM
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Yeap.
You know more than I do about the subject, Mike. But that has been my observation too. Not long ago I sold an extreme miscut (2 almost half cards on front) and it had several punch holes and creases. It sold quickly for a pretty penny. It will be interesting to see where this one goes this Sunday ast auction...


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I respectfully disagree.

In the world of freaks/errors. Having the variation noted on the flip has always been very important to the people collecting them (ask Johhny V, Jamie, Wonka [wherever he may be], Scott & Hank, etc)...and the "AUTH" designation usually has gone hand in hand with that, and more desirable, as it typically denotes a true "scrap" that wasn't put into packs. (Where's Johnny V?, he can wax poetry about all this).

I can't speak to whether or not SGC has stopped doing that, but I can tell you that I was the first person to get them to start doing it around 10 years ago. I had a discussion with Dave Foreman and others at SGC at a show; I had several printing errors with me (missing color, upside down back, multi-strike, etc). They told me they had never added those descriptors before, but they thought it was fine to start doing it, thus mine were the very first ones they did it with.

(Incidentally, I like this card a lot...no issue there).
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:32 PM
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I respectfully disagree.

In the world of freaks/errors. Having the variation noted on the flip has always been very important to the people collecting them ...
Yep!!!

"Watchya Tink bout these Grades wit No Mention of the Obvious!?"
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:54 PM
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SGC no longer puts various anomalies on the flip.
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things must have changed since mcsnyc talked to them. maybe he could talk to them again.
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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Too bad they didn't put "upside down overprint" (or such) on flip. Did you request they do that? Would be much better, if they could.
Last I talked to them they had stopped adding such notations on the flip. I have an E98 McGraw (SGC 40) with an upside down back and they would not add it to the flip. Years ago, I had them add the same description on a Holmes to Homes card (upside down back) that I had found.
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They will note wrong backs and blank backs (but those get an A). I have a graded wrong back somewhere with it noted.
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This thread has been a clinic on how to passively promote your own card at auction on the main page.
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Old 09-21-2019, 07:10 PM
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This thread has been a clinic on how to passively promote your own card at auction on the main page.
the seller is a pro at that. a recent dog food card comes to mind. he owes Leon a check, in my opinion.
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Well he does advertise also so it doesn't bother me. If he didn't do paid advertising I would be bothered.

Of course that could be a little self-serving of me
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The card looks awesome in an SGC holder! It's an awesome one of a kind HOF overprint (upside-down) T206 error and it's in an auction (Wheatland Auctions) that ends soon! I hope it finds a good home - https://www.wheatlandauctionservices...entoryid=13500
Chuck, were you happy with the results of the/your auction? I think $4,800 with Buyer's Premium was quite strong.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:27 AM
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Auction house never happy of their results....

Congrats to your winning Rhotchkiss!
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I didn’t win this card.

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