Mantle 1953 PSA : here is why you should never put cards is heavy screw downs OUCH

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by seanofjapan

Maybe its the discoloration on the front where it says Outfielder and New York? Looks like someone peeled some tape off and pulled a bit of the surface ink off with it or something like that.

Nice card though.

I thought that but the black type "OUTFIELDER" where those white spots are NEAR looks like there are no signs of ink removal on any letter , hard for tape to be removed with out disturbing the black lettering you would think ,I noticed the white spots and the blotches, but did not think that would prevent a grade being given, or would that be enough to cause PSA to not grade it ?

[Promethius88]

Gorgeous card. Would love to own it!

[661fish]

I don't think they should grade it altered. Makes no sense to me. Why not call cards that have creases altered then?

[peachlander]

I am guessing it is the marks on the red(maybe left by the screwdown?) that they feel "altered" the card...as you know any grading from even the big 3 is a bit of a crapshoot!...irregardless a beautiful card!...please pm me a price if you decide to sell as I am most interested..thanks!

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by peachlander

I am guessing it is the marks on the red(maybe left by the screwdown?) that they feel "altered" the card...as you know any grading from even the big 3 is a bit of a crapshoot!...irregardless a beautiful card!...please pm me a price if you decide to sell as I am most interested..thanks!

I am open to offers FYI turned down $900 and have a higher offer on the table

AND for example here is a recent sale
THIS ONE WAS TRIMMED AT THE BOTTOM PSA AUTHENTIC ALTERED
and sold for $1900 , I think mine looks better

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...te=1&LH_Sold=1

[robw1959]

I remember one time when PSA returned a T206 Cobb of mine ungraded and unholdered due to them considering it being "pressed". I don't know the history of that card, but it could have been in a heavy-duty screwdown holder for quite a while as well, I suppose. Maybe that's what prevented your Mick from getting a number grade, but in any case they should have disclosed the reason to you.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by robw1959

I remember one time when PSA returned a T206 Cobb of mine ungraded and unholdered due to them considering it being "pressed". I don't know the history of that card, but it could have been in a heavy-duty screwdown holder for quite a while as well, I suppose. Maybe that's what prevented your Mick from getting a number grade, but in any case they should have disclosed the reason to you.

I did call them straight away , but they just read of their cheat sheet
and said they would be unable to give a specific reason why it received
authentic altered
and here is a direct quote for a Net 54 member in 2017

11-13-2017, 12:24 PM

bigfanNY bigfanNY


"I had a long talk with 2 graders who sat down at lunch table with me at national. We only discussed 2 issues min size requirement and altered. What they said about altered was most altered cards were placed in heavy plastic screw downs and pressure was applied to the card. Hence the term altered stock. SGC has the same term. I have had cards from Goudey's to 80's rookies get this grade.And for a time I like many used large screwdowns to display cards at shows so I accepted them at their word. Hope this helps.
Jonathan"

so I guess that may be the reason on mine

[megalimey]

I am open to offers FYI turned down $900 and have a higher offer on the table

for example
THIS ONE WAS TRIMMED AT THE BOTTOM PSA AUTHENTIC ALTERED
and sold for $1900 , I think mine looks better

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...te=1&LH_Sold=1