Mantle 1953 PSA : here is why you should never put cards is heavy screw downs OUCH

[peachlander]

I am guessing it is the marks on the red(maybe left by the screwdown?) that they feel "altered" the card...as you know any grading from even the big 3 is a bit of a crapshoot!...irregardless a beautiful card!...please pm me a price if you decide to sell as I am most interested..thanks!

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by peachlander

I am guessing it is the marks on the red(maybe left by the screwdown?) that they feel "altered" the card...as you know any grading from even the big 3 is a bit of a crapshoot!...irregardless a beautiful card!...please pm me a price if you decide to sell as I am most interested..thanks!

I am open to offers FYI turned down $900 and have a higher offer on the table

AND for example here is a recent sale
THIS ONE WAS TRIMMED AT THE BOTTOM PSA AUTHENTIC ALTERED
and sold for $1900 , I think mine looks better

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...te=1&LH_Sold=1

[robw1959]

I remember one time when PSA returned a T206 Cobb of mine ungraded and unholdered due to them considering it being "pressed". I don't know the history of that card, but it could have been in a heavy-duty screwdown holder for quite a while as well, I suppose. Maybe that's what prevented your Mick from getting a number grade, but in any case they should have disclosed the reason to you.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by robw1959

I remember one time when PSA returned a T206 Cobb of mine ungraded and unholdered due to them considering it being "pressed". I don't know the history of that card, but it could have been in a heavy-duty screwdown holder for quite a while as well, I suppose. Maybe that's what prevented your Mick from getting a number grade, but in any case they should have disclosed the reason to you.

I did call them straight away , but they just read of their cheat sheet
and said they would be unable to give a specific reason why it received
authentic altered
and here is a direct quote for a Net 54 member in 2017

11-13-2017, 12:24 PM

bigfanNY bigfanNY


"I had a long talk with 2 graders who sat down at lunch table with me at national. We only discussed 2 issues min size requirement and altered. What they said about altered was most altered cards were placed in heavy plastic screw downs and pressure was applied to the card. Hence the term altered stock. SGC has the same term. I have had cards from Goudey's to 80's rookies get this grade.And for a time I like many used large screwdowns to display cards at shows so I accepted them at their word. Hope this helps.
Jonathan"

so I guess that may be the reason on mine

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by megalimey

I did call them straight away , but they just read of their cheat sheet
and said they would be unable to give a specific reason why it received
authentic altered
and here is a direct quote for a Net 54 member in 2017

11-13-2017, 12:24 PM

bigfanNY bigfanNY


"I had a long talk with 2 graders who sat down at lunch table with me at national. We only discussed 2 issues min size requirement and altered. What they said about altered was most altered cards were placed in heavy plastic screw downs and pressure was applied to the card. Hence the term altered stock. SGC has the same term. I have had cards from Goudey's to 80's rookies get this grade.And for a time I like many used large screwdowns to display cards at shows so I accepted them at their word. Hope this helps.
Jonathan"

so I guess that may be the reason on mine

So they measure card thickness?

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

So they measure card thickness?

I could not get an answer from customer service
they just referred me to their website about AUTHENTIC ALTERED

also based on what I have read , with decades of pressure in a screw down
cards can show evidence of pressure , and considered altered ???
its a shame the card has great centering sharp registration , no printers marks
apart from some white spots

[KCRfan1]

Nice card!