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Old 08-25-2019, 06:46 AM
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Neat, looks good to me.

The great overlays. Great card there!!
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Old 08-25-2019, 01:42 PM
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Default Upside down over print

I actually saw that card in person at the National along with 70+ other T206s that he had.... definitely legit. I made an offer; however, he was wanting to sell the whole group for well more than I thought it was worth.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:44 PM
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Hey guys

Pardon my reply delay....as we were away....enjoying Cape May.

OK,
Circa..Fall of 1909, American Lithographic switched from brown HINDU to the OLD MILL backs on 34 of the Southern League cards.
Simultaneously, ALC was also modifying SWEET CAPORAL (Factory #30) cards with "Factory #649" overprints. During this process,
the usual printer's practice of test printing runs prior to final press runs, which resulted in these brown inked OLD MILL cards [with
the red ink Factory #649 overprint (inverted)]. I do not think any of these printer scraps were inserted into cigarette packs.
Anyhow some years ago, we accounted for 13 of these So. Lge. cards with the inverted red overprint. These 13 are confirmed........

Bernhard
Foster
Greminger
Helm
Hooker
Jordan
Kiernan
Mullaney
Paige
Reagan
Revelle
Sid Smith
Thornton






Now, regarding SWEET CAPORAL cards (such as this Lajoie), I have not seen any.

Furthermore this may be trivial....but it concerns me that the placement of the inverted red overprint on this Lajoie card
differs from the placement of the red overprint on the the Greminger card.

Another concern I have is that the normal "#649 overprint" was printed on 34 different T206 subjects. Why have we not
seen, in all these years, any of the other 33 subjects with this type of printing error on their backs ?


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Old 08-25-2019, 05:37 PM
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Ted - thanks for the for the information on the 13 Southern League cards that were found. I have no concerns regarding the authenticity of the card since it was in at attic for many decades with many other early 1900 cards. As to why we have not seen any previously, I think it's probably due to the scarcity as you mentioned - they may have been a test run that may not have gone into tobacco packs. I hope you and the family enjoyed Cape May!
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I don't think Ted was worried about the authenticity of the card itself, but rather of the overprint.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:36 PM
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The card looks awesome in an SGC holder! It's an awesome one of a kind HOF overprint (upside-down) T206 error and it's in an auction (Wheatland Auctions) that ends soon! I hope it finds a good home - https://www.wheatlandauctionservices...entoryid=13500
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Too bad they didn't put "upside down overprint" (or such) on flip. Did you request they do that? Would be much better, if they could.
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i think the 1.5 grade more than makes up for not having a description of the overprint
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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Too bad they didn't put "upside down overprint" (or such) on flip. Did you request they do that? Would be much better, if they could.
Last I talked to them they had stopped adding such notations on the flip. I have an E98 McGraw (SGC 40) with an upside down back and they would not add it to the flip. Years ago, I had them add the same description on a Holmes to Homes card (upside down back) that I had found.
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The card looks awesome in an SGC holder! It's an awesome one of a kind HOF overprint (upside-down) T206 error and it's in an auction (Wheatland Auctions) that ends soon! I hope it finds a good home - https://www.wheatlandauctionservices...entoryid=13500
Chuck, were you happy with the results of the/your auction? I think $4,800 with Buyer's Premium was quite strong.
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Auction house never happy of their results....

Congrats to your winning Rhotchkiss!
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