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Old 08-10-2019, 02:41 PM
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#75 Lindy Shows Larry. Finding pigmentation differences in common on every vintage Topps card, but this one seems to really exceed what is normal. The card can be found with both mens' pants white and light faces, or glowing red faces red pants, and red grass. Looking at my copies, I think this is more than the result of cards coming out bright or light depending on the ink levels used when the sheet was printed. Some of the red spots really shouldn't have red there in any amount, and don't on the 'correct' copies of the card. This is not a rare one to find at all, pretty easy recurring defect if this meets ones definition.

EDIT - my iPhone has a hard time picking this up, you can see it in the photo but it is truly blindingly obvious if you have both cards in person
I am a Cardinals collector, so this card concerns me. There is already a known variation with this card. One variation shows the black names at the bottom closer to "Lindy Shows Larry". You can tell by looking at the "L" in "Larry" underneath the "w" in "Shows". One variation is much closer than the other.

While looking at them now, the card with the black names closest has the pants more reddish with the reddish faces. The other one is more of normal color. I am thinking that this will be consistent with every card. In other words, I am predicting that you won't find the "reddish" coloring on a card with the black letters lower and further way from the white letters. I would love for someone to confirm.
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Old 08-10-2019, 04:36 PM
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I was aware of the spacing issue you mention Shane. There was a seller on eBay pointing them out on several 61 cards. Does anyone know if the Lindy/Larry card is a DP ?
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:24 PM
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I am a Cardinals collector, so this card concerns me. There is already a known variation with this card. One variation shows the black names at the bottom closer to "Lindy Shows Larry". You can tell by looking at the "L" in "Larry" underneath the "w" in "Shows". One variation is much closer than the other.

While looking at them now, the card with the black names closest has the pants more reddish with the reddish faces. The other one is more of normal color. I am thinking that this will be consistent with every card. In other words, I am predicting that you won't find the "reddish" coloring on a card with the black letters lower and further way from the white letters. I would love for someone to confirm.
I did not know about this cropping variation on the card; your prediction makes perfect sense though, as the red in this card really doesn't look like the result of different ink levels when printing. I guess this isn't really a new one after all! Thank you
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:28 PM
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Fergie's 1973 card has a thin blue line beneath the team name on some (not all) miscue cards. I presume it's some sort of alignment mark from the sheet
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:32 PM
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A couple more I noticed recently but have not seen a "corrected" copy, may be a defect throughout the entire print run.\

1972 Gary Peters #503 - grass goes into the yellow frame at bottom

1972 Duane Josephson #543 - red and blue lines through jersey underneath armpit

1973 Bobby Grich #418 -"Homers" in write up on back has almost the entirety of the "r" missing

1973 Bobby Valentine #502 - "acquired" on back is missing half of the "I"

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Old 08-12-2019, 09:39 PM
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1973 Topps 564 Mike Thompson - red dot on arm, blue squiggle next to it, white spot in grass, and a second little blue dot on arm by the red dot. Seems to be an all or nothing defect, not sure how scarce but definitely not common.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:45 PM
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1973 Topps #570 Bill Singer - another questionable red oddity. The red circle behind the position logo is smeared at the top, the clouds have a clear red color to them, and his jersey has smears of red as well. I've seen a couple others like this. "dark/light" red exists on every card in every set of the era, but this one also seems to be more than the result of more or less ink during that particular sheets run. The clouds especially, as there should be no red ink in that area at all.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:50 PM
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1972 Topps 535 Ed Brinkman - this one has a variation where Brinkman has a giraffe's neck. Just kidding, actually there is a blue dot in a white circle in the upper right by his cap. Maybe 15% of cards have it.
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Fergie's 1973 card has a thin blue line beneath the team name on some (not all) miscue cards. I presume it's some sort of alignment mark from the sheet
That's what it is, Jenkins was the middle card on the bottom row of the sheet, a perfect spot for an alignment mark.
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The 73 Jenkins can also be found with black dot in left front border glove high and a blue dot on his uniform under his left wrist, the latter is pretty scarce
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The 73 Jenkins can also be found with black dot in left front border glove high and a blue dot on his uniform under his left wrist, the latter is pretty scarce
Never noticed those, I'm off to shop for more Fergie's!
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And Hector Lopez #532 in the 1965 set can be found with a bold yellow line in bottom border - pretty common.
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