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[G1911]

#75 Lindy Shows Larry. Finding pigmentation differences in common on every vintage Topps card, but this one seems to really exceed what is normal. The card can be found with both mens' pants white and light faces, or glowing red faces red pants, and red grass. Looking at my copies, I think this is more than the result of cards coming out bright or light depending on the ink levels used when the sheet was printed. Some of the red spots really shouldn't have red there in any amount, and don't on the 'correct' copies of the card. This is not a rare one to find at all, pretty easy recurring defect if this meets ones definition.

EDIT - my iPhone has a hard time picking this up, you can see it in the photo but it is truly blindingly obvious if you have both cards in person

[G1911]

1961 Topps series 1 again. 83 Bob Bruce has a red spot on jersey near his neck. Maybe 10% of the cards have it? Not too tough

[G1911]

Possible variants, I have not encountered a corrected copy of these defects, but thought I should note them as there may well be variants here in your guys collections:

1961 Topps #115 Johnny Antonelli - red dot by ear, right side.
1965 Topps Manny Mota - white splotch interrupting part of ".259" in lifetime batting average.
1966 Topps #120 Harmon Killebrew - stray blue line by ear

[G1911]

1961 Topps 137 Chuck Dressen - big yellow splotch in red banner. Topps sure seemed to struggle with random yellow ink getting into places it shouldn't for a good 30 years or so. This one is very, very tough to find.

The lines through his face from the frame are pencil marks, not part of the printing

[G1911]

And speaking of 1961 Topps and yellow problems, here's another toughie. 159 Orioles Team card, with yellow streak in name box

The other arrow is pointing to a white splotch above one of the players heads. It is difficult to see, even in person, and its hard for me to tell how recurring or rare this is as my eyes have a tough time here on scans.

[G1911]

1961 Topps card 178, Bob Nieman. With or without a blue splotch in the sky next to his ear. This version with the blue splotch is less common, I think maybe 5% or so.

[G1911]

1961 Topps 183 Andre Rodgers

I've always wondered what Mr. Rodgers is looking at... Anyways, blue splotch on forehead and a streaky blue mark in his jersey, directly above team box. This card is very tough, I've only seen one other, although I stopped looking for too long after finding this one.

The splotch on his neck is a pack or gum stain, not a mark

[frankhardy]

Originally Posted by G1911

#75 Lindy Shows Larry. Finding pigmentation differences in common on every vintage Topps card, but this one seems to really exceed what is normal. The card can be found with both mens' pants white and light faces, or glowing red faces red pants, and red grass. Looking at my copies, I think this is more than the result of cards coming out bright or light depending on the ink levels used when the sheet was printed. Some of the red spots really shouldn't have red there in any amount, and don't on the 'correct' copies of the card. This is not a rare one to find at all, pretty easy recurring defect if this meets ones definition.

EDIT - my iPhone has a hard time picking this up, you can see it in the photo but it is truly blindingly obvious if you have both cards in person

I am a Cardinals collector, so this card concerns me. There is already a known variation with this card. One variation shows the black names at the bottom closer to "Lindy Shows Larry". You can tell by looking at the "L" in "Larry" underneath the "w" in "Shows". One variation is much closer than the other.

While looking at them now, the card with the black names closest has the pants more reddish with the reddish faces. The other one is more of normal color. I am thinking that this will be consistent with every card. In other words, I am predicting that you won't find the "reddish" coloring on a card with the black letters lower and further way from the white letters. I would love for someone to confirm.

[ALR-bishop]

I was aware of the spacing issue you mention Shane. There was a seller on eBay pointing them out on several 61 cards. Does anyone know if the Lindy/Larry card is a DP ?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by frankhardy

I am a Cardinals collector, so this card concerns me. There is already a known variation with this card. One variation shows the black names at the bottom closer to "Lindy Shows Larry". You can tell by looking at the "L" in "Larry" underneath the "w" in "Shows". One variation is much closer than the other.

While looking at them now, the card with the black names closest has the pants more reddish with the reddish faces. The other one is more of normal color. I am thinking that this will be consistent with every card. In other words, I am predicting that you won't find the "reddish" coloring on a card with the black letters lower and further way from the white letters. I would love for someone to confirm.

I did not know about this cropping variation on the card; your prediction makes perfect sense though, as the red in this card really doesn't look like the result of different ink levels when printing. I guess this isn't really a new one after all! Thank you

[G1911]

Fergie's 1973 card has a thin blue line beneath the team name on some (not all) miscue cards. I presume it's some sort of alignment mark from the sheet

[G1911]

A couple more I noticed recently but have not seen a "corrected" copy, may be a defect throughout the entire print run.\

1972 Gary Peters #503 - grass goes into the yellow frame at bottom

1972 Duane Josephson #543 - red and blue lines through jersey underneath armpit

1973 Bobby Grich #418 -"Homers" in write up on back has almost the entirety of the "r" missing

1973 Bobby Valentine #502 - "acquired" on back is missing half of the "I"

[G1911]

1973 Topps 564 Mike Thompson - red dot on arm, blue squiggle next to it, white spot in grass, and a second little blue dot on arm by the red dot. Seems to be an all or nothing defect, not sure how scarce but definitely not common.

[G1911]

1973 Topps #570 Bill Singer - another questionable red oddity. The red circle behind the position logo is smeared at the top, the clouds have a clear red color to them, and his jersey has smears of red as well. I've seen a couple others like this. "dark/light" red exists on every card in every set of the era, but this one also seems to be more than the result of more or less ink during that particular sheets run. The clouds especially, as there should be no red ink in that area at all.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

Fergie's 1973 card has a thin blue line beneath the team name on some (not all) miscue cards. I presume it's some sort of alignment mark from the sheet

That's what it is, Jenkins was the middle card on the bottom row of the sheet, a perfect spot for an alignment mark.

[ALR-bishop]

The 73 Jenkins can also be found with black dot in left front border glove high and a blue dot on his uniform under his left wrist, the latter is pretty scarce

[G1911]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

The 73 Jenkins can also be found with black dot in left front border glove high and a blue dot on his uniform under his left wrist, the latter is pretty scarce

Never noticed those, I'm off to shop for more Fergie's!