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Old 07-25-2019, 02:20 PM
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Is there a place to see the other 50 cards they manipulated the prices along with the dates?

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Take, for example, a card in the top 100 for PWCC, the 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente card. Clemente is a good example because he is no longer alive, meaning there’s nothing that can really change the perception of his card. Here are the prices reported as sold for a PSA 8 Clemente Rookie:

January 2015 — $29,127
October 2015 — $35,864
May 2016 — $131,450
July 2016 — $150,391
November 2016 — $38,500
November 2018 — $26,400
Why did the price crater in four months in 2016? Because the market-fixers moved on to another card.

This has been done with more than 50 vintage cards (though some of the rises and falls are not as dramatic as the Clemente card) but these cards were in the PWCC index because they were among the most valuable.
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Is there a place to see the other 50 cards they manipulated the prices along with the dates?

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Take, for example, a card in the top 100 for PWCC, the 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente card. Clemente is a good example because he is no longer alive, meaning there’s nothing that can really change the perception of his card. Here are the prices reported as sold for a PSA 8 Clemente Rookie:

January 2015 — $29,127
October 2015 — $35,864
May 2016 — $131,450
July 2016 — $150,391
November 2016 — $38,500
November 2018 — $26,400
Why did the price crater in four months in 2016? Because the market-fixers moved on to another card.

This has been done with more than 50 vintage cards (though some of the rises and falls are not as dramatic as the Clemente card) but these cards were in the PWCC index because they were among the most valuable.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=271577
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Thank you for posting those links.

Orlando's statements are utterly mind boggling while Sloan's are still significantly unacceptable. PSA has been aware of the rampant card doctoring for a decade or more and it's indisputably clear that they put forth no effort at all to improve their service quality. Now Orlando in affect dismisses the fraud victims as irrational malcontents.

Does any remember "Pro Grading"? If memory serves me correct, they were deemed as so incompetent for slabbing cards, and were regarded as a "black hole" for trimmed cards. Ebay at one point banned the sale of Pro-graded cards because so many were deemed as bad. In my opinion, PSA deserves the same fate and if Ebay does ban PSA graded cards, then we'll see how much arrogant diatribe Orlando spews out at the public when CU's stock plummets.
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