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Old 07-24-2019, 05:34 PM
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Until they get Brent and Moser bankrupt, in jail for life and free parking vouchers for the next trade show they won’t be happy.
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Lots of lawyers have said lots of things on facebook/social media etc prior to trials, yet you never hear anything about in any trials because its means zero...lets stop debating that issue.

I wonder if any ex employees of PSA the last few months have any info..
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Lots of lawyers have said lots of things on facebook/social media etc prior to trials, yet you never hear anything about in any trials because its means zero...lets stop debating that issue.

I wonder if any ex employees of PSA the last few months have any info..
I would guess all PSA graders and former graders and other employees have NDAs. That said, I would imagine that if there has been anything untoward going on over the years, a grader blowing the whistle could be a major area of vulnerability. As I've said, at this point, nothing would surprise me.
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I would guess all PSA graders and former graders and other employees have NDAs. That said, I would imagine that if there has been anything untoward going on over the years, a grader blowing the whistle could be a major area of vulnerability. As I've said, at this point, nothing would surprise me.
I don't know, but I imagine a court order (supboena, I imagine) outweighs an NDA. IS that correct?
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I would guess all PSA graders and former graders and other employees have NDAs. That said, I would imagine that if there has been anything untoward going on over the years, a grader blowing the whistle could be a major area of vulnerability. As I've said, at this point, nothing would surprise me.
That makes me curious... could an ex PSA employee with an NDA successfully use that as an excuse to not answer questions from the FBI?

Or would that be more of a 5th amendment thing?

I'm thinking that wouldn't be taken well at all...
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I don't necessarily fault a TPG for innocently getting beat on some of the cards we have seen; the work is pretty good. I fault PSA 100% for not stepping up and telling everyone who has been victimized that PSA will stand by its work and its guarantee without reservation if the seller does not make restitution. Instead we get these asshat responses that alternate between disclaimers and fear-mongering. Oohhh, I am so scared to return to the old days of looking at cards myself instead of relying on a demonstrably unreliable service to look at them for me and give me an opinion it will not stand behind anyway.

If PSA was an umpire MLB would have kicked it to the curb for all these blown calls.
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I don't necessarily fault a TPG for innocently getting beat on some of the cards we have seen; the work is pretty good. I fault PSA 100% for not stepping up and telling everyone who has been victimized that PSA will stand by its work and its guarantee without reservation if the seller does not make restitution. Instead we get these asshat responses that alternate between disclaimers and fear-mongering. Oohhh, I am so scared to return to the old days of looking at cards myself instead of relying on a demonstrably unreliable service to look at them for me and give me an opinion it will not stand behind anyway.

If PSA was an umpire MLB would have kicked it to the curb for all these blown calls.
I agree except for the last line. I would introduce the work of Angel Hernandez as Exhibit "A" in rebuttal.
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I haven't posted in 3 years ( until the other day ) . PWCC has drawn out all the sewer rats . PSA is not going to give a crap until the Feds come to the door . If they haven't already .
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LOL, must have missed it. I absolutely HATE agreeing with you again. This is starting to become routine.
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LOL, must have missed it. I absolutely HATE agreeing with you again. This is starting to become routine.
Maybe because we both despise fraudsters?
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Peter and Jeter Spaeth come on guys someone please tell me it made someone laugh!
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that'd be epic!!!! i'd cancel my annual camping trip for that!!!!!
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that'd be epic!!!! i'd cancel my annual camping trip for that!!!!!
i'd cancel a camping trip for anything...My wife wanted to go camping once. I told her that my ancestors paid it forward with 40 years in the desert so forget it. My idea of roughing it is the Cleveland Sheraton.
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i'd cancel a camping trip for anything...My wife wanted to go camping once. I told her that my ancestors paid it forward with 40 years in the desert so forget it. My idea of roughing it is the Cleveland Sheraton.
Bahaha...actually our annual camping trip became an annual cabin trip last year...so technically goin to the cabin as they say in mn!!!! But I do like to camp occasionally even better if kayak camping!
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i'd cancel a camping trip for anything...My wife wanted to go camping once. I told her that my ancestors paid it forward with 40 years in the desert so forget it. My idea of roughing it is the Cleveland Sheraton.
Adam, I would have expected you to say, "My idea of roughing it is attending the National at Atlantic City."
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More information on the vault and it's services:

At the core of the PWCC Vault is a state-of-the-art archival experience that enables clients to have unparalleled liquidity with access to digital images, searchable titles, and real-time market value of their entire trading card collection or investment portfolio.

Vault assets are fully insured and clients will be able to share, display, and fulfill their items in the Vault with ease - all for a fee which falls below the insurance costs of most private policies.

Assets stored in the PWCC Vault enjoy:
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• The facility is a 2000 square foot concrete bank-style vault rated Class III by the Underwriters Laboratory with state-of-the-art security monitoring, rigorous access control, and 24-hour armed security.
• Digital archive of each asset using our digital imaging system with the highest-resolution images available in the market.
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• Free PWCC Eye Appeal (Above Average, Exceptional, and Superior) evaluation. Applies to cards dated 1986 and older with a market value over $250.
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• Additional exciting services available over time. Visit our website for more information.
Please note: we have updated your vault address within your dashboard. At your convenience, please update your custom vault shipping address on eBay and other auction platforms when sending items to the vault.

Please don't hesitate to reach out to us with any questions by phone (833-333-7922) or email (cs@pwccmarketplace.com).

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THE VAULT IS NOW LIVE!
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Dear PWCC Client,

Take advantage of our presence at the National! Avoid the cost and hassle of shipping your high valued assets and instead hand deliver your portfolio to us at the show. You can even schedule an appointment with our team so you don't have to wait in line.

More information on the vault and it's services:

At the core of the PWCC Vault is a state-of-the-art archival experience that enables clients to have unparalleled liquidity with access to digital images, searchable titles, and real-time market value of their entire trading card collection or investment portfolio.

Vault assets are fully insured and clients will be able to share, display, and fulfill their items in the Vault with ease - all for a fee which falls below the insurance costs of most private policies.

Assets stored in the PWCC Vault enjoy:
• Contents are fully insured for actual, real-time market value by the most respected insurance provider in the market and the same insurer of the Baseball Hall of Fame.
• The facility is a 2000 square foot concrete bank-style vault rated Class III by the Underwriters Laboratory with state-of-the-art security monitoring, rigorous access control, and 24-hour armed security.
• Digital archive of each asset using our digital imaging system with the highest-resolution images available in the market.
• Custom software to securely view, share, fulfill, sell and trade assets privately, free of any additional service fees.
• Full-scale fulfillment services for all assets in archival to help facilitate private sales and trades.
• Free PWCC Eye Appeal (Above Average, Exceptional, and Superior) evaluation. Applies to cards dated 1986 and older with a market value over $250.
• Free shipping for PWCC Auction items shipped to the Vault.
• 0% sales tax applied on all recently purchased assets which are shipped to the Vault, regardless of sales venue.
• Obtain a line-of-credit through PWCC Capital, leveraging items in your Vault portfolio as collateral.
• Additional exciting services available over time. Visit our website for more information.
Please note: we have updated your vault address within your dashboard. At your convenience, please update your custom vault shipping address on eBay and other auction platforms when sending items to the vault.

Please don't hesitate to reach out to us with any questions by phone (833-333-7922) or email (cs@pwccmarketplace.com).

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THE VAULT IS NOW LIVE!
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Dear PWCC Client,

Take advantage of our presence at the National! Avoid the cost and hassle of shipping your high valued assets and instead hand deliver your portfolio to us at the show. You can even schedule an appointment with our team so you don't have to wait in line.

More information on the vault and it's services:

At the core of the PWCC Vault is a state-of-the-art archival experience that enables clients to have unparalleled liquidity with access to digital images, searchable titles, and real-time market value of their entire trading card collection or investment portfolio.

Vault assets are fully insured and clients will be able to share, display, and fulfill their items in the Vault with ease - all for a fee which falls below the insurance costs of most private policies.

Assets stored in the PWCC Vault enjoy:
• Contents are fully insured for actual, real-time market value by the most respected insurance provider in the market and the same insurer of the Baseball Hall of Fame.
• The facility is a 2000 square foot concrete bank-style vault rated Class III by the Underwriters Laboratory with state-of-the-art security monitoring, rigorous access control, and 24-hour armed security.
• Digital archive of each asset using our digital imaging system with the highest-resolution images available in the market.
• Custom software to securely view, share, fulfill, sell and trade assets privately, free of any additional service fees.
• Full-scale fulfillment services for all assets in archival to help facilitate private sales and trades.
• Free PWCC Eye Appeal (Above Average, Exceptional, and Superior) evaluation. Applies to cards dated 1986 and older with a market value over $250.
• Free shipping for PWCC Auction items shipped to the Vault.
• 0% sales tax applied on all recently purchased assets which are shipped to the Vault, regardless of sales venue.
• Obtain a line-of-credit through PWCC Capital, leveraging items in your Vault portfolio as collateral.
• Additional exciting services available over time. Visit our website for more information.
Please note: we have updated your vault address within your dashboard. At your convenience, please update your custom vault shipping address on eBay and other auction platforms when sending items to the vault.

Please don't hesitate to reach out to us with any questions by phone (833-333-7922) or email (cs@pwccmarketplace.com).

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Dear PWCC Client,

Take advantage of our presence at the National! Avoid the cost and hassle of shipping your high valued assets and instead hand deliver your portfolio to us at the show. You can even schedule an appointment with our team so you don't have to wait in line.

More information on the vault and it's services:

At the core of the PWCC Vault is a state-of-the-art archival experience that enables clients to have unparalleled liquidity with access to digital images, searchable titles, and real-time market value of their entire trading card collection or investment portfolio.

Vault assets are fully insured and clients will be able to share, display, and fulfill their items in the Vault with ease - all for a fee which falls below the insurance costs of most private policies.

Assets stored in the PWCC Vault enjoy:
• Contents are fully insured for actual, real-time market value by the most respected insurance provider in the market and the same insurer of the Baseball Hall of Fame.
• The facility is a 2000 square foot concrete bank-style vault rated Class III by the Underwriters Laboratory with state-of-the-art security monitoring, rigorous access control, and 24-hour armed security.
• Digital archive of each asset using our digital imaging system with the highest-resolution images available in the market.
• Custom software to securely view, share, fulfill, sell and trade assets privately, free of any additional service fees.
• Full-scale fulfillment services for all assets in archival to help facilitate private sales and trades.
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Thanks for ruining my weekend Peter!
Could someone (Jeff, the Feds, God, etc.) PLEASE put this company out of business for good!!!
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With Huigens. Moser, Orlando, and J. Lichtman as speakers. A panel discussion on What's Good for the Hobby.
I could almost believe this, except for Moser
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I could almost believe this, except for Moser
What about a rep from Ebay?
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What about a rep from Ebay?
That would be Betsy. no?
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