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Old 07-18-2019, 07:44 AM
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There's a good likelihood that some or all of the lawyers who regularly post on this Board will read this thread. The question is have you or are you currently giving legal services to PWCC, Brent Huigens, PSA/Collectors Universe, or Gary Moser in any capacity? A simple yes or no would suffice.
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:02 AM
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Why are SGC holders used for the image yet not mentioned anywhere and no images of PSA holders at all?
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:44 AM
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Why are SGC holders used for the image yet not mentioned anywhere and no images of PSA holders at all?
This aspect annoyed me as well....

But finally a well-written article, overall. I thought the reporter covered most of the high points in an efficient and concise fashion.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:06 AM
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I contacted SGC to let them know. We shall see if the image is changed.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:25 AM
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I contacted SGC to let them know. We shall see if the image is changed.
The bigger question is why didn't the Washington Post run before and after photos of a doctored card. I can't imagine they wouldn't have permission from the BODA people to do so.
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The bigger question is why didn't the Washington Post run before and after photos of a doctored card. I can't imagine they wouldn't have permission from the BODA people to do so.
Because the BODA guys don't own the rights to those images?
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I contacted SGC to let them know. We shall see if the image is changed.
The pic is small, and the label text even smaller and essentially impossible to read. Few to none of the WaPo readers are going to be trying to read that label and I don't think will be able to read what it says if they do. They'll see it as a generic photo the type that accompanies articles.

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At this point, what defense is there for people that continue to do business with or associate with PWCC?

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At this point, what defense is there for people that continue to do business with or associate with PWCC?

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What? No mention of all the class action lawsuits?
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The pic is small, and the label text even smaller and essentially impossible to read. Few to none of the WaPo readers are going to be trying to read that label and I don't think will be able to read what it says if they do. They'll see it as a generic photo the type that accompanies articles.
This has been shared on many facebook card groups as well as anyone who goes to their website. It is very clear they are SGC in the image not PSA on those platforms.
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Excellent!! Well done to those pushing this with the media. Forward!
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The term that collectors have said for decades comes to mind. Buy the card, and not the holder. For all the others that compete on the registry and invest on what the TPG say.. I hope the rabbit hole doesnt go down too far with this fraud/scandal.

On a side note.. Wasn't there an investigation going on with fake PSA holders coming South of the border? They were using real cards and hard to detect unless the cert number didnt match up.
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JC there was and I think still is, I don't believe they have apprehended the guy yet.
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Or maybe they will, lol
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Or maybe they will, lol
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In a previous post I had said "why would a lawyer answer that question," then I saw that you did. Kudos.
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Moser said in a phone interview that he does not alter cards. He said he seeks out cards that he thinks have been “undergraded” by appraisers, breaks them out of their holders and resubmits them to grading companies without alteration hoping for a better value.

“I look for cards that PSA rated 5s and 6s, crack them out and hopefully get a better answer,” he said. “I’ve been buying and selling cards for 20 years. If I’ve been doing this [altering] for that long, I’d be retired. If I was this master alterer, I’d be pretty bad at it. I’d be pretty stupid.
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One wonders why they went with a stack of SGC graded cards for the photo.
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