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Old 07-06-2019, 08:04 PM
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Too funny, if it were any other AH other than PWCC Jesse would be leading the charge pitchfork in hand.
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Old 07-06-2019, 09:49 PM
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Too funny, if it were any other AH other than PWCC Jesse would be leading the charge pitchfork in hand.
If it were any other auction house, they would end the auction.

Edited - just read that this auction will be ended. Good.

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Old 07-06-2019, 10:00 PM
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I'm glad the right thing was done.

Shame it took some backlash to get the owner to do the right thing.

Astonishing to think him and Brent thought it was OK to pull a stunt like that.
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Old 07-06-2019, 11:22 PM
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Too funny, if it were any other AH other than PWCC Jesse would be leading the charge pitchfork in hand.
You must have me confused with someone else. The only time I ever remember speaking out against an AH was when a small one posted a fake 52 Mantle so bad it made the other fakes available on Ebay for 5 bucks look good. I don't recall leading a charge against another, but I suppose it's possible I've forgotten.

As for the Cobb I don't really expect Dan to take it back after 2 years, unless he happens to be involved in or knows what happened to it. If he wants to reach out and discuss a possible resolution I'm open to that.

I plan to contact PSA on Monday and hopefully drop the card off for review when I receive it back from PWCC. As I honestly don't know if erased pencil marks are enough for the A designation or why it it was in the A holder before I got it I am curious to see what they'll say.
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Old 07-06-2019, 11:31 PM
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You must have me confused with someone else. The only time I ever remember speaking out against an AH was when a small one posted a fake 52 Mantle so bad it made the other fakes available on Ebay for 5 bucks look good. I don't recall leading a charge against another, but I suppose it's possible I've forgotten.

As for the Cobb I don't really expect Dan to take it back after 2 years, unless he happens to be involved in or knows what happened to it. If he wants to reach out and discuss a possible resolution I'm open to that.

I plan to contact PSA on Monday and hopefully drop the card off for review when I receive it back from PWCC. As I honestly don't know if erased pencil marks are enough for the A designation or why it it was in the A holder before I got it I am curious to see what they'll say.

What in gods name do you mean when you state "if erased pencil marks are enough for the A designation". I hope you misspoke. Do you see the eraser marks on the card? I do as does everyone else. That's flagrant alternation but still misses the point. Using an eraser to erase a previous stain/pen/pencil mark will remove the color from the card and likely more than that...as seen in your card that was altered. There's no excuse here. The card you purchased from Dan was altered. Plain and simple.
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:03 AM
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What in gods name do you mean when you state "if erased pencil marks are enough for the A designation". I hope you misspoke. Do you see the eraser marks on the card? I do as does everyone else. That's flagrant alternation but still misses the point. Using an eraser to erase a previous stain/pen/pencil mark will remove the color from the card and likely more than that...as seen in your card that was altered. There's no excuse here. The card you purchased from Dan was altered. Plain and simple.
Read PSA's definition of alteration on their website. If you read it the same way I did you'll understand my uncertainty. I'm hoping they see things the way you do and honor their guarantee.
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:25 AM
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Read PSA's definition of alteration on their website. If you read it the same way I did you'll understand my uncertainty. I'm hoping they see things the way you do and honor their guarantee.
I really do not understand your uncertainty. I just went to PSAs website and went to two locations:

1) https://www.psacard.com/resources/gr...andards/#cards

Scroll down and click on "No Grade Definitions"

Do you really feel that your card passes those conditions? Honestly...N-2, N-3, N-5, N-7 and AA. really? you question all of those??

2) https://www.psacard.com/resources/gr...andards/#cards

scroll down until you see "Ungradable Cards"...click on it

"PSA will not grade cards that bear evidence of trimming, re-coloring, restoration, or any other forms of tampering, or are of questionable authenticity."

That should about do it...

Please let me know where the uncertainty is and maybe i or other board members can help you out.
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Old 07-07-2019, 01:15 AM
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Is there a therapist in the house who could help the obsessive behavior
My god, take a step back and don’t forget to breath, kiss your wives, hug your kids and enjoy the fact you have the income to support such a hobby.
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Old 07-07-2019, 05:14 AM
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Is there a therapist in the house who could help the obsessive behavior
My god, take a step back and don’t forget to breath, kiss your wives, hug your kids and enjoy the fact you have the income to support such a hobby.
Agree except for your last word...Hobby.....It isn’t a hobby anymore it’s all
About MONEY....it’s very very sad has been this way for years now....it’s just gotten worse....to many people trying to make money...with less collectors...
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Is there a therapist in the house who could help the obsessive behavior
My god, take a step back and don’t forget to breath, kiss your wives, hug your kids and enjoy the fact you have the income to support such a hobby.
Ahemmmmm. Some of us have husbands and boyfriends here.
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