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Thanks. Payday today, and The money ($787) is in my account now. PWCC is taking the initiative to reach out and notify its clients about these altered PSA-graded cards and providing timely refunds. So at least they're making good on the promise of restitution.
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That would no shock me one bit...a day late and a dollar short Last edited by Johnny630; 07-01-2019 at 04:23 PM. |
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Like a bank robber returning (some of) the money after he got caught red handed. To try to get a lighter sentence. Wowzers. Where was their initiative during a decade or more of this sh*t?
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Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. ![]() My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 07-01-2019 at 05:03 PM. |
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in this situation, no arrest, no lawsuits..everyone is being paid back....nothing to see here. |
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To me, an active FBI investigation is not nothing. But that's just me, Jake.
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Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. ![]() My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 07-01-2019 at 05:28 PM. |
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SGC is on the top of their game
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Ok, here is an SGC 3 Cy Young Port with an EPDG back that was sold by Lee back in his 2017 auction. It was then cleaned up and regraded by SGC to a 5.5 and sold by PWCC with the High End sticker of course....
Perhaps Lee can see who bought the card? I’m curious of course... was it Moser? Maybe someone else? Link to BO research below: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=3708 |
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Gary is not a T206 guy I don't believe. But, someone else working with Brent might be. It would not surprise me at all if Brent himself was the buyer, just as he bought the WWG DiMaggio out of REA, and some other cards I am aware of.
No big deal, though, at least it wasn't trimmed so yay for SGC.
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Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. ![]() My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 07-01-2019 at 07:13 PM. |
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Brent was connected to the WWG DiMaggio only because someone came forward and told me, and allowed me to post it. We are now almost certainly dealing with many multiples of that situation, where people could come forward and provide facts.
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Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. ![]() My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 07-01-2019 at 10:19 PM. |
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Also arrests are usually made so evidence cant be destroyed while the 'active' investigation takes place Yes, if the investigation is more secret, and there is less worry that any alleged crimes are now being hidden or evidence isnt destroyed there is more of a wait period. Tough to say there are victims in the criminal case when no civil lawsuits Times just keeps going on... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-02-2019 at 11:36 AM. |
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Jake -- you're clueless about this.
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OK how many months/years need to go by before you agree the 'active' investigation isnt so active.
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Jake doesn't understand, it seems, that sometimes the investigation precedes the arrest/indictment.
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The quote you took from me was actually taken out of context. |
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Didn't you say at some point that it's a good thing that PWCC is offering restitution? Regardless of the motive, restitution is a good thing, and I'm glad it's happening.
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Yes, it's wonderful that PWCC is covering PSAs mess for them...
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Cover up is so evident don’t think they’re doing this out of their kindness of their own hearts Newport Beach is taking care of them....do the right thing and we will update the Pop Report and come up with some new Fake News marketing to lure the sheeple back just do what’s right and we got your back...
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Great point. If only PSA had truly been the gold standard so many of us believed they were . . .
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I have to disagree. Pwcc has been deliberately targeting TPGs to grade altered cards, altered by them, and adding their little sticker for profit. Pwcc should foot the bill as long as feasibly possible as they are exposed as the ones with consistent behavior that could be viewed as criminal. I highly doubt they are consoling pwcc behind the scenes.
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....I sure hope and pray not.....but I’m suspicious of it.... |
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Yes, they can be this bad at their job. Beckett is definitely handing out favorable grades to their largest submitters (in fact they've even used it as a sales tactic for accounts). Look up the Joe Clemons thread on the Blowout baseball board for evidence.
But PSA just seems to be completely incapable of detecting these alterations. I cataloged the various alterations they've missed so far elsewhere, but will retype it here: 1) Trimming (even heavy trimming) 2) False rough cuts 3) Filled Pinholes 4) Missed erasures 5) Bleaching and stain removal 6) Crease removal by pressing/spooning 7) Rebuilt corners 8) Intentionally rounded corners (unnatural wear) 9) Recoloring 10) Reglossing has been accused
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-- PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head PSA: Regularly Get Cheated BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern SGC: Closed auto authentication business JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC Oh, what a difference a year makes. |
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