Beware... Moser cards apparently in Mile High Auction

[70ToppsFanatic]

Originally Posted by bounce

So for the record, you’d be cool winning these cards then?

It Wouldn’t change your mind at all if you knew who consigned them, you would bid the same regardless?

And you’d have zero problem bidding in their auctions again after finding out they were accepting consignments from someone who was actively seeking to get altered cards past the TPGs?

For the record, I am saying is that there is quite a bit of information not yet disclosed/uncovered/available and yet there are outrageous claims being made about 25-33% and “...practically the whole auction...” being bad slabs. That’s irresponsible and potentially something that could cause great harm to some innocent peoples’ livelihoods.

For the record, I am saying be diligent and do your homework if you’re a prospective purchaser. As for the hyperbole, stick to the facts as we know them.

[bounce]

Originally Posted by 70ToppsFanatic

As for the hyperbole, stick to the facts as we know them.

As usual, no answers to the questions asked of you.

Fine - let's deal with facts.

Looks like at least 42 lots have been withdrawn, out of approximately 400 graded card lots.

Basically all the 1948 Leafs except one, 1948 Bowmans, all the Berk Ross except one, all the Parkhursts except one, I'm sure there are others. All of these sets were extremely popular choices for alteration.

Thankfully it appears that MH has dealt with most/all of them? Yesterday they were taking them down one at a time as discovered and reported, but seems like that changed.

I said 25% of the auction might be suspect now, so you're right I misspoke. I was referring to the single card auctions, of which something near 10% are now withdrawn.

Where exactly between this and 25% does hyperbole start and stop?

It's your prerogative to continue to insist we need a "courtroom conviction" level of certainty on each and every card. I don't need that level of certainty.

I'm glad they were withdrawn. Unfortunately, we still have to keep looking for them next time. And unless the AHs are going to share with each other and/or the market more broadly, someone else is likely going to get duped into accepting these and this whole circus will start again.

[Peter_Spaeth]

When's the last time an AH withdrew 40 cards from an auction after it opened? But nah, nothing to see here, after all, no lawsuits yet, right Jake?

And yep, the cards will just surface somewhere else.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

When's the last time an AH withdrew 40 cards from an auction after it opened? But nah, nothing to see here, after all, no lawsuits yet, right Jake?

And yep, the cards will just surface somewhere else.

sounds like the harm was prevented...

[tschock]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

sounds like the harm was prevented delayed...

Fixed it for you. No charge.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

sounds like the harm was prevented...

Until they show up elsewhere...

[tulsaboy]

Have they pulled the 75 racks that were still up yesterday? Those are no good as well.
kevin

[drcy]

Good job by Mile High.

But this is the type of stuff that should happen. When the big time auctions and dealers start having to remove a lot of cards in the middle auction, they'll start putting pressure on PSA and the system.

It would go be good if this happens a bunch of times with other auction houses.

[Collect Equity]

Originally Posted by tulsaboy

Have they pulled the 75 racks that were still up yesterday? Those are no good as well.
kevin

The folks at Collectors Universe also mentioned the '75 & '78 rack packs are no good (LINK). I've been watching the Mile High site and as of right now they are still up.

I am not a collector of unopened, so I don't know anything about Rack Packs. Can someone edumacate me on how you can tell the Rack Packs are bad? I do see the packaging seems shinier and the plastic package edges are longer than the similar GAI graded examples. Are these the tell-tale signs?

Lastly, has anyone contacted Mile High about these Rack Packs? It's strange they are still up when multiple people are calling them out.