Small Cracker Jack find - my first

tschock · #1 06-11-2019, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Congrats on the find.

It's interesting to note that on the same board members are talking about cards that have been presumably soaked, cleaned up, and bumped a couple of grades being the biggest scandal in our hobby's history. And in this threads others are giving advice on how to do it.

Almost as 'interesting' to note how you conveniently leave out trimmed and recolored when setting up strawmen.

pokerplyr80 · #2 06-11-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tschock

Almost as 'interesting' to note how you conveniently leave out trimmed and recolored when setting up strawmen.

I agree, those are the issues we should be concerned with. But this board can't even agree on if soaking is acceptable. I don't have a strong opinion on way or the other. But many of the cards guys are worked about have simply been cleaned up a little. Much as these would have to be if removed from their present location.

Is soaking ok for scrap book removal, but not stain removal? Where do we draw the line? Will PWCC's conservation definition become the industry standard? Will PSA update the definition of altered? Lots of interesting unanswered questions right now.

T205 GB · #3 06-11-2019, 05:04 PM

First off to the OP I have to say it is an amazing find. Regardless of players just finding CJ�s in a scrapbook would be an adrenaline rush. Huge Congrats on a nice find of good looking CJ�s. When it comes to vintage cards, Sometimes perfection has errors. Happy collecting.

Soaking a scrapbook page to loosen cards has been done forever in the hobby from the most trusted names to the guys shady as fuq. If it doesn�t come off with plain water then it�s permanent. If you use chemicals or other bio agents to clean, remove, or alter the card in any way then it�s altered.

If the OP decided to soak those cards I would think the black card stock would wreak havoc on the card. Maybe add drops of water to the back of the stock and allow time to soak through. Hopefully once the area is damp, Not Saturated, the card will pop right off and the glue will dry fairly quickly. I would suggest good ole card savers and penny sleeves for storage over grading. If you feel the need to soak and rinse I guess you could. Removing the glue with plain water won�t remove the stain it made and it won�t adversely effect the card in any way it hasn�t already by leaving it on there and not soaking it. You Can�t Soak Away Age in a card with plain water. I can promise you it is impossible without the aid of something additional. If those cards go into a bath to soak it could also leave a film residue on them from the glue breaking down. Not to mention the cards would be more prone to foxing and discoloring after prolonged soaks. It�s reminds me of the �Take this pill to fix your issue. Take these three to fix the side effects from that one�.

Yastrzemski Sports · #4 06-11-2019, 08:18 PM

Just wondering. Those cjs are wafer thin and very fragile. Would they hold up to a soak?

T205 GB · #5 06-11-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Just wondering. Those cjs are wafer thin and very fragile. Would they hold up to a soak?

Yes they will and you can search for previous threads for cards that will and will not take a bath in plain water. I think the list was pretty extensive the last time I seen it.

Exhibitman · #6 06-12-2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by T205 GB

Yes they will and you can search for previous threads for cards that will and will not take a bath in plain water. I think the list was pretty extensive the last time I seen it.

If someone spots it please post the link here.

trdcrdkid · #7 06-12-2019, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If someone spots it please post the link here.

Here you go:

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=169988

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