I guess this is goodbye

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

What you are saying is you don't care who anyone deals with. You are saying it's their choice. And although true, that gives you zero credibility in judging other's character and principles, like you did with the OP. You trashed him for having principles while you ignore Leon's apparent indifference when it comes to principles. So why would anyone take you seriously. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Principles > doing whatever it takes for a buck. You can spin it all you want, but anyone actually paying attention to your words sees you have no credibility.

I read Mark as saying as long as I get to enjoy the forum for free, I don't care where the revenue comes from. That's fine, he's entitled to feel that way, but don't be calling ME disingenuous.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I read Mark as saying as long as I get to enjoy the forum for free, I don't care where the revenue comes from. That's fine, he's entitled to feel that way, but don't be calling ME disingenuous.

But that's not ALL he's saying. He's trashing people for saying they don't like that the ads are here. That's a HUGE difference. If he just said what you said he said, I would have just agreed and moved on. But he took it further and trashed someone for having principles? That's completely absurd. What he's really saying is Leon can do what he wants and everyone should support him and everything he does because the site is free to use, and if you don't your'e a jerk. Really?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

But that's not ALL he's saying. He's trashing people for saying they don't like that the ads are here. That's a HUGE difference. If he just said what you said he said, I would have just agreed and moved on. But he took it further and trashed someone for having principles? That's completely absurd. What he's really saying is Leon can do what he wants and everyone should support him and everything he does because the site is free to use, and if you don't your'e a jerk. Really?

Yes, I am with you 100 percent on this, that's what I was trying to say not so clearly apparently by adding, don't be calling ME disingenuous for objecting. That's where he crossed the line.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes, I am with you 100 percent on this, that's what I was trying to say not so clearly apparently by adding, don't be calling ME disingenuous for objecting. That's where he crossed the line.

Okay, I get it now.

[Goudey77]

The mob mentality and social media harassment is a big cultural problem.
I have recently been attacked via my Instagram page for displaying PSA cards. I get it in the form of comments and personal direct messages.
It wouldnt surprise me if this behavior keeps up we'll soon see physical altercations at card shows in the near future.
If you want to be an internet tough guy then I welcome you to bring that same voice in the real world. Just give me one guy to say something...

[CobbSpikedMe]

Honestly it's been so long since I registered here I don't remember what info I needed to provide to do so. But I can't imagine I had to give any sensitive info like SSN or credit card info. So what's so scary about registering with you're real name? I don't know, I guess I don't get it.

[calvindog]

When strong opinions are put out publicly people get pissed sometimes. And sometimes pissed people are criminals or idiots who will try to destroy your life if given the chance. How many people have had their careers destroyed for something they’ve posted on FB or Twitter? Has no one ever heard of such a thing? I’m not surprised people wouldn’t want to give their real names on this or any site which contains strangers. I understand the point of requiring real names which is to prevent that sort of damage I described from happening. But I understand the other side too.

[Leon]

Would you rather have this site be totally anonymous?

Originally Posted by calvindog

When strong opinions are put out publicly people get pissed sometimes. And sometimes pissed people are criminals or idiots who will try to destroy your life if given the chance. How many people have had their careers destroyed for something they’ve posted on FB or Twitter? Has no one ever heard of such a thing? I’m not surprised people wouldn’t want to give their real names on this or any site which contains strangers. I understand the point of requiring real names which is to prevent that sort of damage I described from happening. But I understand the other side too.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Leon

Would you rather have this site be totally anonymous?

Wouldn't you accomplish the same thing by keeping that info for yourself. Forcing people to literally have it public seems only to give others who could have ulterior motives, access to information on people they don't need or deserve. Everything would be exactly the same if our identities were only know by you.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

When strong opinions are put out publicly people get pissed sometimes. And sometimes pissed people are criminals or idiots who will try to destroy your life if given the chance. How many people have had their careers destroyed for something they’ve posted on FB or Twitter? Has no one ever heard of such a thing? I’m not surprised people wouldn’t want to give their real names on this or any site which contains strangers. I understand the point of requiring real names which is to prevent that sort of damage I described from happening. But I understand the other side too.

Never had my life destroyed. Have had my eBay account screwed with, got my share of racist, homophobic, profanity filled PMs/emails. I also know a scum bag sellers lawyer. That was just from fellow forum members.

I still like the name rule even if it has been used by the scum to intimidate the good guy(s) calling them out.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Never had my life destroyed. Have had my eBay account screwed with, got my share of racist, homophobic, profanity filled PMs/emails. I also know a scum bag sellers lawyer. That was just from fellow forum members.

I still like the name rule even if it has been used by the scum to intimidate the good guy(s) calling them out.

I am sorry to hear about those PMs and emails. There is no excuse at all for that.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Honestly it's been so long since I registered here I don't remember what info I needed to provide to do so. But I can't imagine I had to give any sensitive info like SSN or credit card info. So what's so scary about registering with you're real name? I don't know, I guess I don't get it.

Do you understand what you can do to someone having just their name.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

Do you understand what you can do to someone having just their name.

Apparently not. But my name is already on the web I'm sure so I'm not too worried about it being on a baseball card forum too. Oh well.