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Old 05-29-2019, 04:35 AM
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I have been contacted many times trying to get me to remove certain sales data from the website for people that I flat out denied. I have run VCP with integrity and honesty from the start.
The Blowout guys are saying that your site's PWCC card back scans have also been deleted, however back scans from other sellers are still visible. Is this true? Is this another poorly timed glitch or were you asked by eBay or PWCC to remove those images?
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...290614&page=87

Now you see why everything looks like a conspiracy?
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:45 AM
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The Blowout guys are saying that your site's PWCC card back scans have also been deleted, however back scans from other sellers are still visible. Is this true? Is this another poorly timed glitch or were you asked by eBay or PWCC to remove those images?

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...290614&page=87



Now you see why everything looks like a conspiracy?
If this is true, you think a minimum 7% of members could file a dispute on their credit card?

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Old 05-29-2019, 08:38 AM
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The Blowout guys are saying that your site's PWCC card back scans have also been deleted, however back scans from other sellers are still visible. Is this true? Is this another poorly timed glitch or were you asked by eBay or PWCC to remove those images?
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...290614&page=87

Now you see why everything looks like a conspiracy?

Yeah sure I am removing scans of cards...are you crazy...first of all looking at every single one of those cards they have used in their proof. All images before alteration have come from Worthpoint or PWCC and after alteration from PWCC. Not one single link or image has been pointed towards VCP.

So tell me why would i be deleting images.
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:41 AM
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Sheesh.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:21 AM
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That's one very sophisticated alteration.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:28 AM
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Oh my.

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Old 05-30-2019, 08:48 AM
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Nice trimmed Mantle. Good Work Brent Mastro, scammer extraordinaire.

Can't wait for this to crumble on top of ole poor Brent Mastro. There is always some guy trying to scam the system and Brent is THAT guy.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:54 AM
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Nice trimmed Mantle. Good Work Brent Mastro, scammer extraordinaire.

Can't wait for this to crumble on top of ole poor Brent Mastro. There is always some guy trying to scam the system and Brent is THAT guy.
I disagree with your opinion on Brent. He built himself a fine mousetrap, worth more than this nickel and dime scam (relative to his enterprise value). Problem is he grown with his volume and there hasn’t been quality control measures commensurate to that growth. I think implementing card reviews at levels based on card value, and transparency on the process, would go a long way. It I don’t think he was in on it.

I read the shilling posts, read underneath it as well.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:50 AM
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"oh my", "sheesh", "mercy", "good golly miss molly" (not sure if I got that one right)…..and probably others I can't remember. Peter, you are very descriptive.
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I'd love to know how that edge roughening is done. That in my opinion is impressive. Criminal, but impressive.
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:34 AM
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I'd love to know how that edge roughening is done. That in my opinion is impressive. Criminal, but impressive.
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I'd love to know how that edge roughening is done. That in my opinion is impressive. Criminal, but impressive.
Also starkly demonstrates the stupidity of rewarding cards with higher grades for having poor characteristics (i.e., rough cuts).
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:13 AM
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Yeah sure I am removing scans of cards...are you crazy...first of all looking at every single one of those cards they have used in their proof. All images before alteration have come from Worthpoint or PWCC and after alteration from PWCC. Not one single link or image has been pointed towards VCP.

So tell me why would i be deleting images.
I am not. They are claiming that the PWCC sales prior to 2015 have lost back scans.
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Yeah sure I am removing scans of cards...are you crazy...first of all looking at every single one of those cards they have used in their proof. All images before alteration have come from Worthpoint or PWCC and after alteration from PWCC. Not one single link or image has been pointed towards VCP.

So tell me why would i be deleting images.
I don't think you would shut your business down like that, unless Brent Mastro bought you out.

Your site showed the backs BACK FROM 2015.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:28 AM
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I don't think you would shut your business down like that, unless Brent Mastro bought you out.

Your site showed the backs BACK FROM 2015.
Again we did not remove any back images...for us to do something like that would be virtually impossible. If you look at images on our site there are cases where there are any where from 1 to 6,7,8 images of any given sale. And then they are in no particular order the first image is not always the front of the card, it could be the back of the card. There is no set consistency the way the images are loaded on the site, it is a direct pull for the auction houses and however they set their order.

I would like to see some examples of these missing images but no one has submitted a "Report a Problem" on VCP for me to look into the matter. Think I saw somewhere the seller Probstein was brought up and if that is the case he did not provide back images for years so there would not even be a back image to delete. Not all sellers provide back images. We can only pull what is there and not something out of thin air if it does not exist.
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