1865 Elysian Fields artwork....perhaps the first significant BaseBall collectible.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Corey- if I remember correctly, the artist put himself in three different places in the Civil War print. If you look closely you can find all three.

That's my recollection as well.

[tedzan]

I discovered this "oldie-but-goodie" in a quaint Antique shop in the New Jersey Pine Barrens about 12 years ago. This Harper's Weekly original
print is almost 150 years old and is in fantastic condition.

As most of you know, the Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first Major League team. In 1869 they were undefeated in all 21 games. To honor
their home team, the Cincinnati Lumber Company crafted a 27-ft long bat with the inscriptions of the "First Nine" players.








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[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I discovered this "oldie-but-goodie" in a quaint Antique shop in the New Jersey Pine Barrens about 12 years ago. This Harper's Weekly original
print is almost 150 years old and is in fantastic condition.

As most of you know, the Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first Major League team. In 1869 they were undefeated in all 21 games. To honor
their home team, the Cincinnati Lumber Company crafted a 27-ft long bat with the inscriptions of the "First Nine" players.








TED Z

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Ted--Please stick to T206s. The 1869 Red Stockings were purportedly the first openly professional team. The "major leagues" didn't start until 1871 with the formation of the National Association. The Red Stocking's record in 1869 was 57-0.

Jay

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Ted--Please stick to T206s. The 1869 Red Stockings were purportedly the first openly professional team. The "major leagues" didn't start until 1971 with the formation of the National Association. The Red Stocking's record in 1869 was 67-0.

Jay

Hey Jay

For starters....why don't you get the year straight.....1871

I already noted that regarding the National Association when I posted my Troy Haymakers scorecards.

Perhaps you need to put on some "rose colored glasses"


TED Z

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[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Jay

For starters....why don't you get the year straight.....1871

I already noted that regarding the National Association when I posted my Troy Haymakers scorecards.

Perhaps you need to put on some "rose colored glasses"


TED Z

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Wow! Ted calling out Jay! Talk about Battle of the Titans!


I'm humbled by the 'weighty' exchange.


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[oldjudge]

Ted-Mine was an obvious typo. Yours were blatant errors that could mislead those unfamiliar with early baseball history.

[tedzan]

Hey Jay

I'm very well aware that the Red Stockings won 57 games (lost none) in 1869.

The 21 undefeated games I noted were their record as of the date the "Big Bat" was presented to them in July 1869. As stated in
the Harper's Weekly clipping I posted.

Also, I made note (in another thread) regarding the National Association in 1871 was the actual start of "Major League" baseball.


Look, I didn't care for your snarky comment in that other thread about my positive comments regarding Mickey Mantle.

You apparently don't think much of him, and that's your prerogative.

I followed his career from 1952 - 1961. I watched him play (via TV or at Yankee Stadium) many times. And, that's how I base my
fondness for him.
You had to see him play to appreciate him.

Did you see him play during those years ?

Because if you did you would have a different opinion of him. Along with guys like Ted Williams, Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, etc.,
Mantle was the most exciting player in BB during that period..



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