Thoughts on Third Party Graders?

[Bagwell-1994]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There are literally 100 or more threads on this topic already, suggest you search the archives.

Ah ok. I'll try search next time before creating new thread. Apologies.

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[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bagwell-1994

Ah ok. I'll try search next time before creating new thread. Apologies.

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Don't apologize, I can always use another thread to make fun of "the people who get paid for their opinions"...

Doug "beating a dead horse is my thing" Goodman

[slipk1068]

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

This.

[Bagwell-1994]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

I prefer graded cards now and I prefer PSA (unless they're really old cards then SGC is fine). When I first began buying cards, I bought a bunch of raw 1941 Play Ball cards from different people on Ebay. I eventually sent them in to SGC for grading at $10/pop. Nearly every one of them came back as "SGC A for Altered". This experience kind of ruined me regarding raw cards.

[DeanH3]

Here are my opinions.

PSA generally brings higher prices for key registry issues like T206, T205, Cracker Jack, '33/'34 Goudey and post war issues.

SGC is a very close second on those and equal or not better on the other pre-war issues, especially caramels.

The mantra of "buy the card not the holder" is essential.

Good luck on your journey. From your previous pick ups, you're off to a hell of a start.

Wanted to add - cards that show superior eye appeal for their respective grade, centering in particular, are bringing big premiums in both PSA/SGC slabs.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bagwell-1994

I prefer graded cards now and I prefer PSA (unless they're really old cards then SGC is fine). When I first began buying cards, I bought a bunch of raw 1941 Play Ball cards from different people on Ebay. I eventually sent them in to SGC for grading at $10/pop. Nearly every one of them came back as "SGC A for Altered". This experience kind of ruined me regarding raw cards.

Too bad that their OPINION of yours was altered but their OPINION of that other TRIMMED card that the entire business was built on was NM-MT.

And, before somebody ignores my obvious point, when I say "their" I mean opinion sellers in general, not that specific one.

Doug "to each his own" Goodman

[oldjudge]

PSA gets the highest prices
PSA has the best registry
PSA is extremely consistent
PSA has great customer service

It's not that SGC does a bad job, but given the above why would anyone not use PSA?

[sycks22]

It always baffles me how they can charge $5k to grade a high end card. I wish my opinion was worth $5k for a minute of work.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

PSA gets the highest prices
PSA has the best registry
PSA is extremely consistent
PSA has great customer service

It's not that SGC does a bad job, but given the above why would anyone not use PSA?

I TRUST SGC much more than PSA, especially on very old cards and very rare cards. PSA beats in most things, but when it comes to cards before 1930, I trust SGC’s opinion of authenticity - PSA screws up too often on these in my opinion

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

PSA gets the highest prices
PSA has the best registry
PSA is extremely consistent
PSA has great customer service

It's not that SGC does a bad job, but given the above why would anyone not use PSA?

There are so many post I agree with. But I chose this one to comment on.

PSA is almost always late on their projected turn arounfd times. SGC almost always meets theirs. You get what you pay for with them. Research and see what the first card graded by PSA was, and then question why was this their first card?

Personally, I go with SGC because I do not trust PSA. However, that is submitting.

I will buy PSA graded, I will not submit to them. Everyone thinks PSA is infallible. But I don’t.

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[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

PSA gets the highest prices
PSA has the best registry
PSA is extremely consistent
PSA has great customer service

It's not that SGC does a bad job, but given the above why would anyone not use PSA?

Jay, I give you a grade of 75% - 3 out of 4 correct. "PSA is extremely consistent" - Say what?!!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

Before they existed every phone didn't have a camera...