Thoughts on Third Party Graders?

Peter_Spaeth · #1 03-07-2019, 12:28 PM

There are literally 100 or more threads on this topic already, suggest you search the archives.

Goudey77 · #2 03-07-2019, 12:39 PM

Valid question. But since you are a member of VCP I think you have your answer $$$. TPG�s aren�t perfect and all will have experienced controversial issues. But ultimately I wouldn�t get too hung up with any one TPG. Buy the cards you want and if submitting raw cards for grading go with what fits your objectives. If it�s resale then go with PSA. There are so many variables depending on type of card being graded as well. Bazooka handcut cards for instance will have stricter guidelines by PSA standards. Some claim SGC has stricter standards for pre war.
It�s nice to have choices.

doug.goodman · #3 03-07-2019, 12:57 PM

What do I think about "the people who get paid for their opinions"?

Well, the most famous card with a paid opinion was graded incorrectly, so that's a good place to start.

Doug "still trimming cards hoping for an 8" Goodman

ALR-bishop · #4 03-07-2019, 01:17 PM

Doug has been consistent on this issue in every one of the 100 threads Peter mentioned

Bagwell-1994 · #5 03-07-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There are literally 100 or more threads on this topic already, suggest you search the archives.

Ah ok. I'll try search next time before creating new thread. Apologies.

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doug.goodman · #6 03-07-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagwell-1994

Ah ok. I'll try search next time before creating new thread. Apologies.

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Don't apologize, I can always use another thread to make fun of "the people who get paid for their opinions"...

Doug "beating a dead horse is my thing" Goodman

slipk1068 · #7 03-07-2019, 03:13 PM

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

Jim65 · #8 03-07-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

This.

Bagwell-1994 · #9 03-07-2019, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

I prefer graded cards now and I prefer PSA (unless they're really old cards then SGC is fine). When I first began buying cards, I bought a bunch of raw 1941 Play Ball cards from different people on Ebay. I eventually sent them in to SGC for grading at $10/pop. Nearly every one of them came back as "SGC A for Altered". This experience kind of ruined me regarding raw cards.

DeanH3 · #10 03-07-2019, 04:09 PM

Here are my opinions.

PSA generally brings higher prices for key registry issues like T206, T205, Cracker Jack, '33/'34 Goudey and post war issues.

SGC is a very close second on those and equal or not better on the other pre-war issues, especially caramels.

The mantra of "buy the card not the holder" is essential.

Good luck on your journey. From your previous pick ups, you're off to a hell of a start.

Wanted to add - cards that show superior eye appeal for their respective grade, centering in particular, are bringing big premiums in both PSA/SGC slabs.

doug.goodman · #11 03-07-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagwell-1994

I prefer graded cards now and I prefer PSA (unless they're really old cards then SGC is fine). When I first began buying cards, I bought a bunch of raw 1941 Play Ball cards from different people on Ebay. I eventually sent them in to SGC for grading at $10/pop. Nearly every one of them came back as "SGC A for Altered". This experience kind of ruined me regarding raw cards.

Too bad that their OPINION of yours was altered but their OPINION of that other TRIMMED card that the entire business was built on was NM-MT.

And, before somebody ignores my obvious point, when I say "their" I mean opinion sellers in general, not that specific one.

Doug "to each his own" Goodman

oldjudge · #12 03-07-2019, 04:40 PM

PSA gets the highest prices
PSA has the best registry
PSA is extremely consistent
PSA has great customer service

It's not that SGC does a bad job, but given the above why would anyone not use PSA?

doug.goodman · #13 03-07-2019, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipk1068

As much as I dislike them, before they existed, buying a card through the mail was like the wild west. NM cards with creases, stains, etc. At least now, you have a clue what to expect.

Before they existed every phone didn't have a camera...

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