Players who fell off a cliff

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

I know Maris fell apart quickly and his career numbers are short. But with 2 mvp and 3 ws and the 61 season I think he belongs in the HOF for the same reason Koufax is in. A short and powerful career.

Albert Belle's case is infinitely stronger on the short and sweet theory. 8 or so years as an elite slugger.

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Joey has better numbers but Roger has 2 mvp, 3 ws and 61. Belle has none of those. Advantage: Roger.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Albert Belle's case is infinitely stronger on the short and sweet theory. 8 or so years as an elite slugger.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Joey has better numbers but Roger has 2 mvp, 3 ws and 61. Belle has none of those. Advantage: Roger.

The WS are irrelevant IMO. Billy Martin played in a lot of WS too, and Gene Woodling.

[packs]

I'm sitting on a minor nest egg if Joey ever DOES get elected:

[A2000]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm sitting on a minor nest egg if Joey ever DOES get elected:

Hey if Harold Baines can get in...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by A2000

Hey if Harold Baines can get in...

Albert Belle blows away Harold Baines. Look at his stats for the 1990s.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Albert Belle blows away Harold Baines. Look at his stats for the 1990s.

He only has 1726 hits. It is going to be hard to get elected to the HOF with that few. Maris is even worse with 1325. If those guys had played long enough to get 2000, I think they would both be in.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Albert Belle's case is infinitely stronger on the short and sweet theory. 8 or so years as an elite slugger.

Agree, personalities aside, Belle was the much better hitter than Maris.