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Old 12-31-2018, 11:00 AM
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In keeping with the spirit of this thread, I, for one, feed my green Cobb every day and he seems to be growing nicely. I must confess though that I discard the table “scraps” that he leaves behind.
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Old 12-31-2018, 11:02 AM
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Valuable/desirable card, but missing the rarity component to hang with the big 4 IMO...
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Old 12-31-2018, 11:30 AM
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I agree with you on rarity definitely.....

very curious of opinions on this one
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Johnny, isn’t a t206 set considered complete without Wagner, Doyle, Plank, Magie? If so, I think that’s the fact (based on rarity) that distinguishes the green Cobb from the Big Four. So, in my opinion, it will not become the 5th, which assumes “big” = price, not rarity. I think the Demmitt and O’Hara PB would get the nod over the green Cobb if we were adding “big ones” of t206.
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Ryan, I think Green Cobb in grades 1-5 outpace Demmitt & O’Hara. (Maybe even the higher grades too).

Just an interesting observation.

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Old 12-31-2018, 12:05 PM
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also a great point!

maybe green cobb in regard to big 5 in price??????????

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definitely....
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Johnny, isn’t a t206 set considered complete without Wagner, Doyle, Plank, Magie? If so, I think that’s the fact (based on rarity) that distinguishes the green Cobb from the Big Four. So, in my opinion, it will not become the 5th, which assumes “big” = price, not rarity. I think the Demmitt and O’Hara PB would get the nod over the green Cobb if we were adding “big ones” of t206.
The Cobb green lacks the rare aspect of O'Hara and Demmitt, but it is still one of the best cards of one of the greatest players, and is collected by many across the hobby. Demmitt and O'Hara are only collected by advanced T206 collectors.

So the Cobb green may end up being just as scarce in terms of demand as the O'Hara and Demmitt.
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Interesting side note about Demmitt and O'Hara- Ted can elaborate (Hi Ted)...

They were (obviously) only distributed with Polar Bear backs, but they are not rare or scarce within the Polar Bear population, if that makes sense. Meaning they are no rarer than a Kroh, for example, with a Polar Bear back.
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Interesting side note about Demmitt and O'Hara- Ted can elaborate (Hi Ted)...

They were (obviously) only distributed with Polar Bear backs, but they are not rare or scarce within the Polar Bear population, if that makes sense. Meaning they are no rarer than a Kroh, for example, with a Polar Bear back.
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Yes....and, no.

Your population comparison of Demmitt and O'Hara to other POLAR BEAR cards is true, but you have to qualify which ones. My theory is that these two St. Louis variations
were printed during the press runs of POLAR BEAR backs on 350/460 Series cards. The majority of T206's with POLAR BEAR backs are found in the 350/460 series cards.

But, your example of Kroh is not a good one. Kroh is a 350-only Series subject. And in general, the 350-only guys were short-printed with respect to POLAR BEAR backs.


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Sean, my point is that it’s rarity, not value, that makes the Big 4, the Big 4.

Side question, would you rather have a Demmitt/O’Hara in a 5-6, or a green Cobb in a 5-6. I think it’s a close call (would rather have the green Cobb in a 4 or less)

Johnny, I get it with the Demmitt/O’Hara - I never seen the hoopla with these two, as you are correct that they are not rare among PB backs. In fact, I have never owned either. That said, whenever a real pretty 5+ comes up for sale (and maybe a smokin and clean 4), I often think long and hard about pulling the trigger.

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whenever a real pretty 5+ comes up for sale (and maybe a smokin and clean 4), I often think long and hard about pulling the trigger.
Ryan, here's a 3.5 in case you want to settle:


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Sean, my point is that it’s rarity, not value, that makes the Big 4, the Big 4.

Side question, would you rather have a Demmitt/O’Hara in a 5-6, or a green Cobb in a 5-6. I think it’s a close call (would rather have the green Cobb in a 4 or less)

Johnny, I get it with the Demmitt/O’Hara - I never seen the hoopla with these two, as you are correct that they are not rare among PB backs. In fact, I have never owned either. That said, whenever a real pretty 5+ comes up for sale (and maybe a smokin and clean 4), I often think long and hard about pulling the trigger.
There are enough Magie cards that I wouldn’t say they are rare. 15 to 20 get sold a year. Didn’t Robert Edward Auctions auction off three of them in the same auction followed by PWCC two of them plus one straight listed on ebay?

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My name is Michael, not Johnny.
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my name is michael, not johnny.
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Shouldn't Murr'y be #5?
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