T5 Pinkerton On A Paper Mount? AUT?

[petecld]

Originally Posted by Leon

PSA labeled this AUT. Did they just create a new variation or did I miss something?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T5-Pin...892:rk:82:pf:0
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You might have. The SCD says T5s can be found with paper mounts.

SHAMELESS PLUG: Heritage took in a small collection from outside the hobby that were just found. A few are on card mounts, a couple paper mounts and a pair of photos. Some are available now, others in upcoming auctions.

[Leon]

Very interesting.... I haVe never seen one before now. It doesn't look like they would sit on a mantelpiece the way a true T5 cabinet card would. Why would they make them that way?

Originally Posted by petecld

You might have. The SCD says T5s can be found with paper mounts.

SHAMELESS PLUG: Heritage took in a small collection from outside the hobby that were just found. A few are on card mounts, a couple paper mounts and a pair of photos. Some are available now, others in upcoming auctions.

[bigfish]

Horseshit. PSA screwed up unless you can mount a photo to anything and send it to psa?

[Baseball Rarities]

Not sure if they were originally issued with paper mounts, but I have seen them pop up before. I think that Clean Sweep had a group before and here are a few that REA had:

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...et-collection/

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...02-addie-joss/

[itslarry]

Originally Posted by bigfish

Horseshit. PSA screwed up unless you can mount a photo to anything and send it to psa?

Is this on psa?

[ullmandds]

not sure if these were issued this way or not...but PSA graded it A...which the T5 appears to be...and they say paper mount...which it is...so I don't see the problem????

[Leon]

+1.. I call total BS too.
My guess is the photos came off of real cardboard mounts, or are W530s, and someone stuck them on paper, not Pinkerton. Until I see proof of an ad or something as to why they did it I just don't believe it. Maybe I am wrong but don't think so.

Personally, I think PSA just made this crap up or took it as a Paul Bunyan story from the web and made it true.
This W530 has a blank back. Check out the flip and tell me what that means?
I am going to paste it on styrofoam and send it to them as a styrofoam mount T5. Then maybe we can stick one on some bubble wrap and have that kind of mount. That would be cool. They look kind of amateurish to me.

That all said the one on ebay doesn't look like a real photo so I truly hope my thoughts aren't correct. Anyone seen Dan Desmond lately or know if these came from him?

Originally Posted by bigfish

Horseshit. PSA screwed up unless you can mount a photo to anything and send it to psa?

[glynparson]

T5 most definitely came on both paper and cardboard mounts. Some people need to go learn a few things before calling something bull shot. They have been known to have paper mounts for decades. Shocked Leon didn’t know this. Plenty of screw ups by tpg but obviously some of those that scream about tpgs don’t know as much as they act like they do ( not directed at Leon) I have been buying Pinkerton for a long time and have owned over 50 different in my life including several paper mounts that came from out of hobby collections. PSA and sgc both grade paper mounts and I believe bvg does as well

[Leon]

Why did they come on paper mounts? I had never even seen one until these which is fine as I definitely haven't seen everything. But it doesn't make sense. And what is your thought on the W530 flip i posted?

Originally Posted by glynparson

T5 most definitely came on both paper and cardboard mounts. Some people need to go learn a few things before calling something bull shot. They have been known to have paper mounts for decades. Shocked Leon didn’t know this. Plenty of screw ups by tpg but obviously some of those that scream about tpgs don’t know as much as they act like they do ( not directed at Leon) I have been buying Pinkerton for a long time and have owned over 50 different in my life including several paper mounts that came from out of hobby collections. PSA and sgc both grade paper mounts and I believe bvg does as well

[glynparson]

I believe they ran out of the nice mounts from what I have been told and some of the last issues came on paper. They are just like the nice mounts in that they come in several colors. It really is an odd set with tons of idiosyncrasies (sp?). I will look at your other post to se what I think about it.

[bigfish]

Originally Posted by glynparson

T5 most definitely came on both paper and cardboard mounts. Some people need to go learn a few things before calling something bull shot. They have been known to have paper mounts for decades. Shocked Leon didn’t know this. Plenty of screw ups by tpg but obviously some of those that scream about tpgs don’t know as much as they act like they do ( not directed at Leon) I have been buying Pinkerton for a long time and have owned over 50 different in my life including several paper mounts that came from out of hobby collections. PSA and sgc both grade paper mounts and I believe bvg does as well

Hi Glynn, I stand by my post. I don’t think either of us were there when they made these and having them pasted onto several different shades of paper is odd to me. If you have research you could provide us that would be great.

I certainly could be wrong. Just my guy opinion. Not en expert in T5s.

I also don’t think there is any upside to put these in holders. Someone could mistake these for the real deal and overpay which would be unfortunate and possibly the intended end game. There are some unscrupulous people in this hobby.

Warm regards,

T0by

[Jobu]

So, T5s are real photos but W530s aren't?