Is the Ty Cobb back still the scarcest T206 back?

[Rhotchkiss]

I believe Brown Old Mill might be rarer, but it’s close. I believe Brown Lenox is a not-too-distant 3rd. Of the 3, give me a cobb back!

[Blunder19]

Hell yes.. I love me some cobb back..

[Rhotchkiss]

Damn Jamie, great looking back! One day.....

So you won’t trade your Cobb back for one of my Brown Old Mills??!!

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Damn Jamie, great looking back! One day.....

So you won’t trade your Cobb back for one of my Brown Old Mills??!!

But is Cobb on the front of both cards in the proposed trade? I only want a Cobb back because Cobb is on the front. If I am paying mid-four to five or six figures for a card back, it better have a great player on the front.

[MVSNYC]

One of my closest friends just won the Cobb/Cobb in REA, I'm stoked to see it in person, hopefully within the next few weeks...Legendary card.

Jamie- amazing.

PS- I've always loved the "R" is World, on the Cobb back.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by rats60

But is Cobb on the front of both cards in the proposed trade? I only want a Cobb back because Cobb is on the front. If I am paying mid-four to five or six figures for a card back, it better have a great player on the front.

So you've ruled out ever owning a Brown Old Mill?

[Sean]

The estimates that I recall hearing were as follows:

18-20 Old Mill Brown
24 Cobb backs
25-30 Lenox Brown

Old Mill is the most rare, but as the OP pointed out, they are scrap and were not distributed in packs.
We don't know how Cobb backs were distributed. They may have been handed out as promotional items. It seems that they were not packed into Cobb tins, because they were produced in 1910. The tax stamp on Cobb tins indicated a date of 1912 as I recall, so the dates don't line up. I think that it was assumed that they were packed in the tins because some cards and a tin were found together in an old collection.
So the Lenox Brown might be the most rare T206 distributed in packs of cigarettes. But the Lenox Brown is almost certainly a mistake, making the Broadleaf 460 the rarest T206 back that was intentionally produced and distributed. For whatever that's worth.

[Rhotchkiss]

Has anyone seen a Cobb tin? Can someone post a pic if they have one?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Sean

The estimates that I recall hearing were as follows:

18-20 Old Mill Brown
24 Cobb backs
25-30 Lenox Brown

Old Mill is the most rare, but as the OP pointed out, they are scrap and were not distributed in packs.
We don't know how Cobb backs were distributed. They may have been handed out as promotional items. It seems that they were not packed into Cobb tins, because they were produced in 1910. The tax stamp on Cobb tins indicated a date of 1912 as I recall, so the dates don't line up. I think that it was assumed that they were packed in the tins because some cards and a tin were found together in an old collection.
So the Lenox Brown might be the most rare T206 distributed in packs of cigarettes. But the Lenox Brown is almost certainly a mistake, making the Broadleaf 460 the rarest T206 back that was intentionally produced and distributed. For whatever that's worth.

How do we know they were produced in 1910? I have always believed that they were printed later.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Sean

So you've ruled out ever owning a Brown Old Mill?

I have ruled out ever owning a Drum unless I can find one with one of the top players on it and paying through the nose. I have gone after the Cobb/Cobb and may again in the future. My t206 collection is done right now without any of the top 5 scarce backs. I'm not interested in buying them with a common player.