Another "Authentic Wagner"

[brianp-beme]

I say seller's fault if he ends up missing out on something around $500,000 on this sale.

In my humble opinion you have to be able to interpret charts better.

Brian

[yanksfan09]

At least he recognizes the hundreds of thousands of dollars in value and will be shipping in a bubble envelope for protection.

I may bid, but a plain white envelope would have been a deal breaker for me.

[Sean]

He says "Authentic" in the title and "the real deal" in the description.

I thought that eBay prohibited sellers from calling these type of cards authentic unless they were graded.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Sean

He says "Authentic" in the title and "the real deal" in the description.

I thought that eBay prohibited sellers from calling these type of cards authentic unless they were graded.

Ebay endorses "authentic" from JSA and signature authenticators from PSA and SGC so what's wrong with this clown calling the card authentic?

[ronniehatesjazz]

Don't think this beats the Wagner but here is another "attic find"!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T-205-...Dd32:rk:1:pf:0

[mrvster]

FREE SHIPPING!

that's my deal sealer

[MichelaiTorres83]

It almost always is a dormant account that was hacked and the real owner has no idea what is going on.

The attacker got into their email, ebay account and paypal and will move the money when it lands.

[callou2131]

But has The foremost authenticator Jason Mars put his stamp of approval on it yet?

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by Sean

He says "Authentic" in the title and "the real deal" in the description.

I thought that eBay prohibited sellers from calling these type of cards authentic unless they were graded.

The fact that the asking price is 99% below market value is sufficient to conclude with certainty, prima facie, that the card is a reprint. Whoever buys that card for $400 has no legal recourse to make a fraud claim because the element of deception is absent. Not even a complete novice would be fooled.

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

The fact that the asking price is 99% below market value is sufficient to conclude with certainty, prima facie, that the card is a reprint. Whoever buys that card for $400 has no legal recourse to make a fraud claim because the element of deception is absent. Not even a complete novice would be fooled.

Hmm. Well. I would not agree with that. That is a very blanket statement that does not account for ebay account protection let alone credit card protection.

If one suspects wrong doing that is extremely easy to see and prove outside of automated detection of issues from the ebay platform, which most of the time is extremely basic in methodolgoy, then yes there is more than enough runway for recourse once you get someones attention and are the right person requesting recourse.

Even if you are not the account holder all you need to do is report a count compromise to get human intervention. Reporting an account compromise that may subject ebay to other federal, state and local sanctions is way more powerful than reporting a listing that may or may not be legit. It is not met with the same level of ignorance as reporting a suspected marginably bad listing if you get the right person.

The odds this person/attacker went to the level to find a server in the victims home town to connect to ebay to skip past safe guards that a basic automated system can understand are slim to zero. Any human can look at the traffic and see it is anomolous.

What this person did was slip past is a system that is flawed and when met with a lockout that requires real verification to undo is not something that is easily undone.

You can tell this tale by knowing anything about fraud and looking at their feed back history.

This individual has likely been dormant long enough to bring their feedback rating way down through repeat fraud that was caught, uncaught etc round and round not setting off enough of an alert to shut the account off completely.

I can say that if any real human touched the incident when reported and not an automated system any transaction associated to this account would be dead and locked long ago.

If you want to enact swift and blinding justice on a listing then that perspective is how you will be way more effective than pressing a report button. Compliance costs assloads of dollars.

Mike

[mrvster]

hahahaha!!!

[Buythatcard]

Seems like Honus signed the back of several ticket stubs. There are 2 of them out there. You can spend $10.95 or $800.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-H....c100005.m1851


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-t206-H....c100008.m2219