Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

[irv]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The Marquard is actually a different ebay ID. I think the rest are all the
same buyer but I will have to go back and get the sales. I think it actually
might be unrelated to the rest of them.

These are the pre signed sales from the same buyer that I have at this time.

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Sorry if this has been asked already, but is there anyway to tell if this buyer purchased different cards other than T206's?

[ashes13]

Where there is smoke there is fire. If it is this easy to get forged t206 autographs by all the supposed expert authenticators out there, it is likely going on with not just pre-war cards but also all cards and probably all memorabilia. Seems to be alot of hall of fame signed rookie cards being sold over the last few years, such as Mantles, Aarons, etc. They were never that popular but somehow they have become quite prevalent. Also, as alluded to earlier, seems like a lot more signed goudeys have been popping up. The whole "signed" card popularity seemed to have taken off a few years ago and it probably coincides with this perhaps "group" of forgers (perhaps it is one forger but wouldn't surprise me if multiple people are involved). They may even have been the driving force behind trying to pique interest in this niche area and grow its popularity. I just never recall seeing so many signed cards in the big auctions before nor were they very popular.

We are all collectors and this is never good to see. As purely a card collector, I never really got into autograph collecting and as a card purist always preferred cards without markings or autos, but I can see the allure to the autograph enthusiasts of signed classic hobby cards.

Seems like fake autographs have a long sordid history in this hobby.

But it is definitely reassuring that there are so many smart and amazing collectors out there and on these message boards that are able to "police" the hobby and expose these frauds.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by irv

Sorry if this has been asked already, but is there anyway to tell if this buyer purchased different cards other than T206's?

I haven't found where he has purchased any other pre-war cards
besides T206's.

[Daveyc]

I know that PSA will guarantee their grades as far as, If a card is deemed overgraded or not authentic, PSA will either pay the difference in the case of an over grade, or buy it back in the case of an not authentic card.

Does SGC offer a similar guarantee? Wasnt there much speculation about the gretzky Wagner and if the owner would take advantage of the PSA guarantee to the tune of 2.8 million?

[ALBB]

Im looking at an awful lot of 30s cards that were autographed , especially 1933 Goudey and trying to back- track to find that identical card un-autographed