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[bensie]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Ok, that's all well and good, as I even joke about not having a magnifying glass on me. Even still, I honestly believe SGC is trying to rebrand and reposition themselves with the new flip and harsher grading.

But, can someone once and for all explain why the Speaker is an A and not a 1, when I said NOT to encapsulate an A card on their form?

Because they made a mistake?

[luciobar1980]

Originally Posted by bensie

Because they made a mistake?

Did they? Because I honestly was unsure about it. Does it mean they think the card is altered, or not necessarily? It has pinholes but I cant imagine it's been altered (attempt at improvement) to be honest.

I'm sure there is something I'm missing on these cards, but that being said, still harshly graded IMO.

I'll be curious to hear more opinions when people start getting back SGC cards in the near future.

[luciobar1980]

I am almost ashamed to say it, but would a partial refund be a possibility/reasonable from Probstein on the Hack Wilson? They graded it EX-Mt, came back a 4.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

I am almost ashamed to say it, but would a partial refund be a possibility/reasonable from Probstein on the Hack Wilson? They graded it EX-Mt, came back a 4.

Woops double post.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

I am almost ashamed to say it, but would a partial refund be a possibility/reasonable from Probstein on the Hack Wilson? They graded it EX-Mt, came back a 4.

You thought it was a 6 so you obviously agreed with Probstein. And you paid a full 6 price. While I loathe Probstein, you expect him to guarantee what SGC will subjectively grade his cards?

Edited to add: if you were willing to pay a 6 price for a raw card, why not just buy an SGC 6? Wouldn't have cost you a penny more, you could have saved grading and postage fees and all that anxiety of waiting for your cards to be returned. Why take a chance of paying for the cost of a 6 when you believed the card was only destined for a 6 at best?

[luciobar1980]

Was just bringing it up hypothetically. The Wilson is probably the most I’ve ever spent on a raw card, because it looked great. I did agree based on the auction pics, and still a bit baffled by the grade. That doesn’t mean that probstein couldn’t theoretically stand behind the grade they assigned. Ya know, the fact that the overwhelming majority of their cards are graded and this one wasn’t almost makes me suspicious that they saw something that I didn’t and still can’t see. Hmmm

Originally Posted by calvindog

You thought it was a 6 so you obviously agreed with Probstein. And you paid a full 6 price. While I loathe Probstein, you expect him to guarantee what SGC will subjectively grade his cards?

Edited to add: if you were willing to pay a 6 price for a raw card, why not just buy an SGC 6? Wouldn't have cost you a penny more, you could have saved grading and postage fees and all that anxiety of waiting for your cards to be returned. Why take a chance of paying for the cost of a 6 when you believed the card was only destined for a 6 at best?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

I am almost ashamed to say it, but would a partial refund be a possibility/reasonable from Probstein on the Hack Wilson? They graded it EX-Mt, came back a 4.

Either send back for a full refund, or eat it. You're probably outside your return window anyways. And if you do return it because it didn't grade what you expected, please leave your eBay handle so people who want to can add it to their block lists.

[luciobar1980]

Dude, F off.

Originally Posted by swarmee

Either send back for a full refund, or eat it. You're probably outside your return window anyways. And if you do return it because it didn't grade what you expected, please leave your eBay handle so people who want to can add it to their block lists.

[luciobar1980]

Geez, It’s almost like some people are just waiting for the chance to jump at your throat. The internet.

[Orioles1954]

I think it really depends on the grader at that respective company. Some are tough while others are more lenient. With the amount of volume these companies receive I honestly don't think there is a consistent standard.

[orly57]

My rule of thumb is that if a raw card looks really good, it has probably been popped out of an unfavorable holder. But if you must take a chance, a second rule of thumb is to pay for it as if it were two grades lower than you think it may be.

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Geez, It’s almost like some people are just waiting for the chance to jump at your throat. The internet.

This thread is either the internet hating on you or it is free, yet wise, advice regarding your assumptions about buying raw cards online. You decide.