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Old 08-28-2018, 04:35 PM
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I was just told by CS that turnaround time for BGS non-guaranteed is between nine months and one year. Did not check on BVGS.

It’s probably due to the volume of people submitting stupid stuff to be graded. One change I’d like to see, stop grading reprints. Seriously, what’s the point? Unless you’re trying to trick and deceive. Which should not be allowed.

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Old 08-28-2018, 04:40 PM
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It’s probably due to the volume of people submitting stupid stuff to be graded. One change I’d like to see, stop grading reprints. Seriously, what’s the point? Unless you’re trying to trick and deceive. Which should not be allowed.
Even newer cards. If it's not a 9.5 or 10, then there's really no point.
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:50 PM
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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...155093&page=23

Read the whole thread and it will feel like its unfolding.
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Old 08-28-2018, 06:17 PM
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OMG I just read through that thread and it is shocking.

I always knew Beckett found itself in a tough spot once they lost so much market share to PSA and had their subscription business collapse in the early to mid 2000's but this is very serious.

Not only does is say they are tying submitters money up the entire time which is north of a year at this point, there is also no communication. There are definitely plenty of collectors who have and love BGS graded cards but this kind of reputational damage can really be an issue for any company. They can't afford to lose their hard core BGS fans at this point.


This is going to be very interesting to follow as the length of wait has been consistently growing so it doesn't necessarily have to stop at 12 months.


I am not in anyway privy or even suggesting BGS goes under right now but if they did what happens to your cards? Would they be easy to get back? Sounds scary.
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OMG I just read through that thread and it is shocking.

I always knew Beckett found itself in a tough spot once they lost so much market share to PSA and had their subscription business collapse in the early to mid 2000's but this is very serious.

Not only does is say they are tying submitters money up the entire time which is north of a year at this point, there is also no communication. There are definitely plenty of collectors who have and love BGS graded cards but this kind of reputational damage can really be an issue for any company. They can't afford to lose their hard core BGS fans at this point.


This is going to be very interesting to follow as the length of wait has been consistently growing so it doesn't necessarily have to stop at 12 months.


I am not in anyway privy or even suggesting BGS goes under right now but if they did what happens to your cards? Would they be easy to get back? Sounds scary.
One would think this must be having a drastic effect on new submissions so the problem should self-correct, if they survive that is
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Check out this thread. Yikes.


https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1231475
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Old 08-28-2018, 06:48 PM
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Yeah, that seems like an isolated incident. That's why I didn't cross-post it. But I agree with the guys that said it's odd that someone would submit so many expensive 1/1 superfractor autos as bulk submission RCRs. If the cards are worth $500+ each, splurge for an actual slab and not a cardsaver with a sticker on top.
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There's mention of a "cleaner," which seems to be people sending cards to a person who uses microfiber and wax to clean cards before submitting (and also possibly gets paid something for the service?). Is that common? Seems a little strange to me, but I don't dabble in the high-end modern market.
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