The new SGC is almost here!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Fair enough...Interesting though as all of the high graded T206s I bought from you several years ago, all were graded PSA...

I was buying all over the place back then in high grade PSA and SGC -- just look at my Chase and Cobb collections. Simple fact is, more high graded T206s are sold in PSA holders so necessarily I'd be buying more of them. Yes, SGC's went for cheaper and when that opportunity arose to buy them, I bought them. I've never submitted a raw T206 to either company. The cards I buy raw and submit, additionally, are usually in sets that are not impacted by the Registry. It's just easier for me to send them to SGC and get them back in the time it takes for PSA to even acknowledge receipt of the package.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I was buying all over the place back then in high grade PSA and SGC -- just look at my Chase and Cobb collections. Simple fact is, more high graded T206s are sold in PSA holders so necessarily I'd be buying more of them. Yes, SGC's went for cheaper and when that opportunity arose to buy them, I bought them. I've never submitted a raw T206 to either company. The cards I buy raw and submit, additionally, are usually in sets that are not impacted by the Registry. It's just easier for me to send them to SGC and get them back in the time it takes for PSA to even acknowledge receipt of the package.

Fair and decent response, I'll step down...

[ullmandds]

my goodness the civility is deafening!!!!

[bn2cardz]

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

Very good point. The modern "shiny" hobby dwarfs vintage cards in size and scope. PSA and BGS have that market cornered.

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Very good point. The modern "shiny" hobby dwarfs vintage cards in size and scope. PSA and BGS have that market cornered.

Even though vintage is a fraction of newer cards, SGC has definitely carved out their space in that market. BGS/BVG hasn't caught on with pre-1980 cards. It's really PSA's lunch to steal.

[ngnichols]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

None that I saw and I was shocked that they were not doing any grading/slabbing/re-holdering there at the show. It was just a small booth with a desk, a couple of computers, and that's it.

If you're going to roll out a new label, etc. then you better be at that show with everything and pumping it up. An absolute total blunder/fumble on their part and just once again shows why they are a distant 3rd in the grading industry.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by ngnichols

None that I saw and I was shocked that they were not doing any grading/slabbing/re-holdering there at the show. It was just a small booth with a desk, a couple of computers, and that's it.

If you're going to roll out a new label, etc. then you better be at that show with everything and pumping it up. An absolute total blunder/fumble on their part and just once again shows why they are a distant 3rd in the grading industry.

According to this post they were taking submissions, but it was in a different area, so maybe you just saw the display by the PSA booth?

Originally Posted by ullmandds

++1...also...they had a large display close to PSA with high end items graded in the new holder and videos playing but their submission area was somewhere else and was tiny and had no "waiting" area...not that their lines compared to PSA...but still? I was not impressed with their software either as I couldn't find some of my cards using their search feature. For now SGC is still my choice...but they really need to get more professional.

[ngnichols]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

According to this post they were taking submissions, but it was in a different area, so maybe you just saw the display by the PSA booth?

They had a small booth where you could submit cards for grading, but they were not grading ANY cards at the show itself like PSA or BGS were. It was basically a submission center and they were going to take whatever you submitted there at the show back to FL to grade and then ship back to you.

That is a HUGE failure on their part and they looked absolutely pathetic in comparison.