The new SGC is almost here!

[bn2cardz]

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

Very good point. The modern "shiny" hobby dwarfs vintage cards in size and scope. PSA and BGS have that market cornered.

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Very good point. The modern "shiny" hobby dwarfs vintage cards in size and scope. PSA and BGS have that market cornered.

Even though vintage is a fraction of newer cards, SGC has definitely carved out their space in that market. BGS/BVG hasn't caught on with pre-1980 cards. It's really PSA's lunch to steal.

[ngnichols]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

None that I saw and I was shocked that they were not doing any grading/slabbing/re-holdering there at the show. It was just a small booth with a desk, a couple of computers, and that's it.

If you're going to roll out a new label, etc. then you better be at that show with everything and pumping it up. An absolute total blunder/fumble on their part and just once again shows why they are a distant 3rd in the grading industry.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by ngnichols

None that I saw and I was shocked that they were not doing any grading/slabbing/re-holdering there at the show. It was just a small booth with a desk, a couple of computers, and that's it.

If you're going to roll out a new label, etc. then you better be at that show with everything and pumping it up. An absolute total blunder/fumble on their part and just once again shows why they are a distant 3rd in the grading industry.

According to this post they were taking submissions, but it was in a different area, so maybe you just saw the display by the PSA booth?

Originally Posted by ullmandds

++1...also...they had a large display close to PSA with high end items graded in the new holder and videos playing but their submission area was somewhere else and was tiny and had no "waiting" area...not that their lines compared to PSA...but still? I was not impressed with their software either as I couldn't find some of my cards using their search feature. For now SGC is still my choice...but they really need to get more professional.

[ngnichols]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

According to this post they were taking submissions, but it was in a different area, so maybe you just saw the display by the PSA booth?

They had a small booth where you could submit cards for grading, but they were not grading ANY cards at the show itself like PSA or BGS were. It was basically a submission center and they were going to take whatever you submitted there at the show back to FL to grade and then ship back to you.

That is a HUGE failure on their part and they looked absolutely pathetic in comparison.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by ngnichols

They had a small booth where you could submit cards for grading, but they were not grading ANY cards at the show itself like PSA or BGS were. It was basically a submission center and they were going to take whatever you submitted there at the show back to FL to grade and then ship back to you.

That is a HUGE failure on their part and they looked absolutely pathetic in comparison.

They were grading on-site (or attempting to) but their grading area was set up in the basement of the I-X center.

[ngnichols]

Originally Posted by the-illini

They were grading on-site (or attempting to) but their grading area was set up in the basement of the I-X center.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm/joke by indicating it was "in the shitter?"

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by ngnichols

They had a small booth where you could submit cards for grading, but they were not grading ANY cards at the show itself like PSA or BGS were. It was basically a submission center and they were going to take whatever you submitted there at the show back to FL to grade and then ship back to you.

That is a HUGE failure on their part and they looked absolutely pathetic in comparison.

Agree completely that their performance at the National was a joke, and I emailed them a message to that effect. They had 3 chairs set up and the customer was expected to imput his submissions into a computer in front of each chair himself, thereby doing SGC's work for them. This still might have worked had I not encountered the 3 seats each occupied by collectors/dealers each having top holders with 100-200 cards to be submitted. Like I was going to just stand there for an hour and a half to two hours instead of seeking out what I was looking to add to my collection at the show! Pathetic is too nice a word for that crap! Having run a successful law practice for more than 20 years, I can't think of a better way to lose business than placing the small interests of the business operator above the more significant interests of the client/customer. Whenever I have a choice from now on, it's PSA for me, and continuing searches on ebay will specify PSA.

Best to all and to each his own,

Larry

[Lorewalker]

Prior to joining here I was told this was a pro SGC board. This post and other recent ones certainly have had a different ring than that. I collect cards in both holders. Think SGC probably does a better job overall or at least seems more consistent. I like the changes they are trying to implement and count me in as one of the few who likes the look of the new label. Hoping their growing pains do not adversely impact their business. Not sure it is good for any collector that PSA increase their market share.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Prior to joining here I was told this was a pro SGC board. This post and other recent ones certainly have had a different ring than that. I collect cards in both holders. Think SGC probably does a better job overall or at least seems more consistent. I like the changes they are trying to implement and count me in as one of the few who likes the look of the new label. Hoping their growing pains do not adversely impact their business. Not sure it is good for any collector that PSA increase their market share.

i wouldnt say its a pro or against PSA SGC board. I think the board goes along the lines of the general population of the genre of cards that have greatest market share with SGC...so does the board member in that same genre...such as certain pre war cards...i dont think the preferences are any different on the board anywhere else. Its all about what is being collected.

I agree with you that a monopoly is not good for the hobby